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		<title>Davonte Neal &gt; Deontay Greenberry?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2012 17:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>As I flipped through Phil Steele&#8217;s magazine to research my preview post, one ranking in particular stuck out: Davonte Neal was ranked as the #8 freshman WR in the nation&#8211;two spots ahead of Deontay Greenberry at #10. This was rather shocking ranking to me. I expected Greenberry, considered the no-doubt centerpiece of the Irish recruiting...</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I flipped through Phil Steele&#8217;s magazine to research my <a title="Phil Steele and Vegas Preview the Irish" href="http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2012/06/12/phil-steele-vegas-preview-irish/">preview post</a>, one ranking in particular stuck out: <strong>Davonte Neal was ranked as the #8 freshman WR in the nation&#8211;two spots ahead of Deontay Greenberry at #10.</strong> This was rather shocking ranking to me. I expected Greenberry, considered the no-doubt centerpiece of the Irish recruiting class of 2012, to end up ranked higher than Neal.<span id="more-11785"></span></p>
<p>Now, while recruiting rankings are all over the map, Steele&#8217;s rankings (or PS# as he calls them) interest me because he takes a very mathematical approach to the situation:</p>
<blockquote><p>I compile my PS#&#8217;s based on the many different recruiting services across the country. I not only use all of the biggest but use regional reports as well&#8230;When we receive a recruiting magazine, we translate each player&#8217;s ranking into a point system from 1-100. [My employees,] Brandon, Christy and Logan then log each and every player into the computer and give them a point total from each source&#8230;The more they are mentioned and the higher they are rated in each publication, the more total points they accrue. After months of entering all of this information, I sort the list by each position and by total points.</p></blockquote>
<p>While Steele doesn&#8217;t go into the specifics of his point system (after all, he still wants you to buy his magazine), in the subjective realm of recruiting rankings, his approach is as non-biased as it gets . By using so many recruiting services, Steele&#8217;s method allows him to average out some of the biases and oddities that tend to arise in rankings. For instance, some services will raise/lower a recruits ranking based on the schools that offer&#8211;the more prestigious the list, the higher the ranking rises.</p>
<p>In Neal&#8217;s case, these variations were even more pronounced:</p>
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<th>Service</th>
<th>National Rank</th>
<th>Position Rank</th>
<th>Stars</th>
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<td>ESPN</td>
<td>8</td>
<td>1 (ATH)</td>
<td>5</td>
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<td>Rivals</td>
<td>107</td>
<td>17 (WR)</td>
<td>4</td>
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<tr>
<td>24/7</td>
<td>84</td>
<td>7 (ATH)</td>
<td>4</td>
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<tr>
<td>Scout</td>
<td>n/a</td>
<td>5 (CB)</td>
<td>4</td>
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<p>The services can&#8217;t even really settle on what Neal&#8217;s position is, something that definitely affected his position rankings and possibly even his national ranking for those that provided it.</p>
<p>In comparison, take a look at how Greenberry stacked up:</p>
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<th>Service</th>
<th>National Rank</th>
<th>Position Rank</th>
<th>Stars</th>
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<td>ESPN</td>
<td>106</td>
<td>17 (WR)</td>
<td>4</td>
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<td>Rivals</td>
<td>49</td>
<td>7 (WR)</td>
<td>4</td>
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<td>24/7</td>
<td>17</td>
<td>3 (WR)</td>
<td>5</td>
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<td>Scout</td>
<td>n/a</td>
<td>7 (WR)</td>
<td>5</td>
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<p>While the rankings are again rather varied (especially on ESPN&#8217;s part), there is no doubt that Greenberry was definitely considered one of the elite WRs in the nation. The only service that had both Neal and Greenberry as WRs, Rivals, didn&#8217;t even put Neal in the same league as Greenberry. Save for ESPN, the national rankings of Neal and Greenberry aren&#8217;t in the same ballpark as well.</p>
<p>This makes Steele&#8217;s final ranking all the more fascinating. Did Arizona regional services boost Neal&#8217;s rankings far higher than California services did for Greenberry? Are the major services severely underestimating Neal? Did questioning Neal&#8217;s primary position further muddy the waters for some?</p>
<p>Whatever the case, it is clear that Neal got enough print and high enough rankings from many recruiting services to boost him over Greenberry in Steele&#8217;s formulas. Of course, rankings don&#8217;t always equate to on field performance guarantees, something Steele himself readily admits in his magazine.</p>
<p>After all, Dayne Crist was a PS#5 QB.</p>
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