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		By: Ben		</title>
		<link>https://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2012/11/28/the-myth-of-the-sec/#comment-237548</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 17:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That was fun. Do you still think ND would hang in the SEC now that you have seen SEC speed and power together?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was fun. Do you still think ND would hang in the SEC now that you have seen SEC speed and power together?</p>
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		By: Robert		</title>
		<link>https://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2012/11/28/the-myth-of-the-sec/#comment-237543</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 16:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So, what do your cute little graphs tell you now?  Roll Tide.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, what do your cute little graphs tell you now?  Roll Tide.</p>
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		By: Ted		</title>
		<link>https://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2012/11/28/the-myth-of-the-sec/#comment-230783</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 19:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2012/11/28/the-myth-of-the-sec/#comment-230712&quot;&gt;NDtex&lt;/a&gt;.

Good suggestion and good charts.

Thanks!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2012/11/28/the-myth-of-the-sec/#comment-230712">NDtex</a>.</p>
<p>Good suggestion and good charts.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		By: Ted		</title>
		<link>https://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2012/11/28/the-myth-of-the-sec/#comment-230782</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 19:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[HLS has been doing great.

It&#039;s a shame that the national sports media doesn&#039;t pay more attention to the academic side.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HLS has been doing great.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a shame that the national sports media doesn&#8217;t pay more attention to the academic side.</p>
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		By: Bayou Irish		</title>
		<link>https://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2012/11/28/the-myth-of-the-sec/#comment-230737</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bayou Irish]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 13:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2012/11/28/the-myth-of-the-sec/#comment-230714&quot;&gt;NDtex&lt;/a&gt;.

Also on the point of GSR, please consider this: http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2012/10/30/rank/

and

http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2012/08/23/davidson-college-ahead-of-the-irish-gsr-or-a-sick-rick-reilly-fantasy/

and

http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2012/06/05/academics-race-recruiting-jaylon-smith-99/

HLS has been all over Notre Dame&#039;s academic preeminence this season. Thanks for reading!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2012/11/28/the-myth-of-the-sec/#comment-230714">NDtex</a>.</p>
<p>Also on the point of GSR, please consider this: <a href="http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2012/10/30/rank/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2012/10/30/rank/</a></p>
<p>and</p>
<p><a href="http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2012/08/23/davidson-college-ahead-of-the-irish-gsr-or-a-sick-rick-reilly-fantasy/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2012/08/23/davidson-college-ahead-of-the-irish-gsr-or-a-sick-rick-reilly-fantasy/</a></p>
<p>and</p>
<p><a href="http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2012/06/05/academics-race-recruiting-jaylon-smith-99/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2012/06/05/academics-race-recruiting-jaylon-smith-99/</a></p>
<p>HLS has been all over Notre Dame&#8217;s academic preeminence this season. Thanks for reading!</p>
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		By: NDtex		</title>
		<link>https://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2012/11/28/the-myth-of-the-sec/#comment-230714</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NDtex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 06:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2012/11/28/the-myth-of-the-sec/#comment-230710&quot;&gt;Ted&lt;/a&gt;.

Once we hit the number 1 ranking, Biscuit was on the ball immediately with the GSR comparisons: http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2012/11/19/what-it-means-to-be-1/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2012/11/28/the-myth-of-the-sec/#comment-230710">Ted</a>.</p>
<p>Once we hit the number 1 ranking, Biscuit was on the ball immediately with the GSR comparisons: <a href="http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2012/11/19/what-it-means-to-be-1/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2012/11/19/what-it-means-to-be-1/</a></p>
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		By: NDtex		</title>
		<link>https://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2012/11/28/the-myth-of-the-sec/#comment-230713</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NDtex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 06:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2012/11/28/the-myth-of-the-sec/#comment-230704&quot;&gt;Kevin&lt;/a&gt;.

Precisely. The Irish belong in the same tier as the elite SEC teams this season. Membership in the SEC is not a requirement for that honor.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2012/11/28/the-myth-of-the-sec/#comment-230704">Kevin</a>.</p>
<p>Precisely. The Irish belong in the same tier as the elite SEC teams this season. Membership in the SEC is not a requirement for that honor.</p>
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		By: NDtex		</title>
		<link>https://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2012/11/28/the-myth-of-the-sec/#comment-230712</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NDtex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 06:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2012/11/28/the-myth-of-the-sec/#comment-230690&quot;&gt;Kyle&lt;/a&gt;.

Per your suggestion, edited charts from worst to best performances in each stat. Much cleaner.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2012/11/28/the-myth-of-the-sec/#comment-230690">Kyle</a>.</p>
<p>Per your suggestion, edited charts from worst to best performances in each stat. Much cleaner.</p>
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		By: Ted		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 05:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nice job. A lot of SEC fans conveniently forget their slate of stat- and record-padding punching bags.

This is probably off-topic, but can you muster a similar breakdown of the academic side of the equation? The GSR rankings have snagged a few headlines - though not nearly enough - but even those numbers fail to address the fact that not all degrees are created equal. A lot of kids slide through the big football factories taking &quot;rocks for jocks&quot; (Matt Leinhart, anyone?), and many walk out with degrees that don&#039;t mean much in the real world. 

This aspect of things has a particularly sharp edge this year, with ND going against an SEC program for the crystal football, but it also is worth mentioning in the context of the Heisman Trophy.  &quot;The outstanding college football player whose performance best exhibits the pursuit of excellence with integrity.&quot; I have nothing against Mr. Manziel, but doesn&#039;t that copy describe Mr. T&#039;eo to a T?

I&#039;m not a Domer, but I&#039;m a fan of any program that emphasizes academics the way ND does. 

BTW, here&#039;s an interesting take on the whole SEC thing: http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/6936235/s-e-c-s-e-c-s-e-c
Having received both my undergrad and doctoral degrees at universities in the Upper South, I&#039;d say this hits the mark.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice job. A lot of SEC fans conveniently forget their slate of stat- and record-padding punching bags.</p>
<p>This is probably off-topic, but can you muster a similar breakdown of the academic side of the equation? The GSR rankings have snagged a few headlines &#8211; though not nearly enough &#8211; but even those numbers fail to address the fact that not all degrees are created equal. A lot of kids slide through the big football factories taking &#8220;rocks for jocks&#8221; (Matt Leinhart, anyone?), and many walk out with degrees that don&#8217;t mean much in the real world. </p>
<p>This aspect of things has a particularly sharp edge this year, with ND going against an SEC program for the crystal football, but it also is worth mentioning in the context of the Heisman Trophy.  &#8220;The outstanding college football player whose performance best exhibits the pursuit of excellence with integrity.&#8221; I have nothing against Mr. Manziel, but doesn&#8217;t that copy describe Mr. T&#8217;eo to a T?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a Domer, but I&#8217;m a fan of any program that emphasizes academics the way ND does. </p>
<p>BTW, here&#8217;s an interesting take on the whole SEC thing: <a href="http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/6936235/s-e-c-s-e-c-s-e-c" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/6936235/s-e-c-s-e-c-s-e-c</a><br />
Having received both my undergrad and doctoral degrees at universities in the Upper South, I&#8217;d say this hits the mark.</p>
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		By: Kevin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 03:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you for this.  I think the issue we come across is people thinking that by trying to bust the SEC = Perfection myth, there is an automatic assumption that we are saying the SEC is no good.  Of course they are good, definitely the best conference.  

 However, the SEC love is often a self-fulfilling prophecy, especially with how much they beat up on each other.  And any conference that feasts on FCS schools and points to those wins and inflated stats as proof of dominance is fooling itself.  

 What makes the Irish so good this year is not their &quot;SEC defense&quot; or their &quot;SEC style&quot; ball control.  Its their undeniable ability to play their game, focus on their opponent each week without losing focus, and never quit on each other or their fundamentals...in short, playing &quot;IRISH&quot; football.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this.  I think the issue we come across is people thinking that by trying to bust the SEC = Perfection myth, there is an automatic assumption that we are saying the SEC is no good.  Of course they are good, definitely the best conference.  </p>
<p> However, the SEC love is often a self-fulfilling prophecy, especially with how much they beat up on each other.  And any conference that feasts on FCS schools and points to those wins and inflated stats as proof of dominance is fooling itself.  </p>
<p> What makes the Irish so good this year is not their &#8220;SEC defense&#8221; or their &#8220;SEC style&#8221; ball control.  Its their undeniable ability to play their game, focus on their opponent each week without losing focus, and never quit on each other or their fundamentals&#8230;in short, playing &#8220;IRISH&#8221; football.</p>
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