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		By: Geoffrey '73		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoffrey '73]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 06:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It was not exciting being an Irish supporter during the Davie and Willingham years. Weis began to restore the spirit and Kelly has begun to restore expectations. I have no doubt that the 3rd Kelly season will be better than the 3rd Davie, Willingham and Weis seasons.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was not exciting being an Irish supporter during the Davie and Willingham years. Weis began to restore the spirit and Kelly has begun to restore expectations. I have no doubt that the 3rd Kelly season will be better than the 3rd Davie, Willingham and Weis seasons.</p>
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		By: Trey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Trey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 21:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Maybe add an overlay that has the recruiting ranking from 3 and 4 years before. That&#039;s probably your best indicator of how good a team was &quot;supposed&quot; to be.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe add an overlay that has the recruiting ranking from 3 and 4 years before. That&#8217;s probably your best indicator of how good a team was &#8220;supposed&#8221; to be.</p>
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		By: Trey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Trey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 21:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2012/05/14/it-aint-easy-being-green/#comment-225697&quot;&gt;sam gerardi&lt;/a&gt;.

Holy Spell Check, Batman!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2012/05/14/it-aint-easy-being-green/#comment-225697">sam gerardi</a>.</p>
<p>Holy Spell Check, Batman!</p>
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		By: FightingSonOfNotreDame		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FightingSonOfNotreDame]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 16:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tex - For nostalgia&#039;s sake (not that we need to be living in the past any more than we usually do) can you run that same analysis for Holtz&#039;s era?  I bet it&#039;s damn good.  People don&#039;t realize how good his record was year over year not to mention the fact that he legitimately wone 2 NC&#039;s which should be unquestioned and arguably 3.

I remember being in my dorm room when they replaced him with Davies and I was outnumbered 5 to 1 as this being one of the biggest mistakes ND&#039;s made in a long time.  Of course I had no idea how bad of an era it would start.  The arguments at the time from the peanut gallery were ridiculous &quot;Davie will bring us into a modern era of college football&quot;, &quot;He runs practices up tempo with rock music like an SEC team&quot;.

Little did we know.

Anyway, I am confident Kelly is the right man for the job.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tex &#8211; For nostalgia&#8217;s sake (not that we need to be living in the past any more than we usually do) can you run that same analysis for Holtz&#8217;s era?  I bet it&#8217;s damn good.  People don&#8217;t realize how good his record was year over year not to mention the fact that he legitimately wone 2 NC&#8217;s which should be unquestioned and arguably 3.</p>
<p>I remember being in my dorm room when they replaced him with Davies and I was outnumbered 5 to 1 as this being one of the biggest mistakes ND&#8217;s made in a long time.  Of course I had no idea how bad of an era it would start.  The arguments at the time from the peanut gallery were ridiculous &#8220;Davie will bring us into a modern era of college football&#8221;, &#8220;He runs practices up tempo with rock music like an SEC team&#8221;.</p>
<p>Little did we know.</p>
<p>Anyway, I am confident Kelly is the right man for the job.</p>
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		By: Steve in Iowa		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve in Iowa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 16:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great article. It&#039;s a nice way to analyze what has been going on. Just as a suggestion you might want to consider presenting the data in the chart with box-plots for each season. It would make it less busy and give info on median, quartiles and outliers. But good work, anyway.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article. It&#8217;s a nice way to analyze what has been going on. Just as a suggestion you might want to consider presenting the data in the chart with box-plots for each season. It would make it less busy and give info on median, quartiles and outliers. But good work, anyway.</p>
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		By: sam gerardi		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sam gerardi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 16:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2012/05/14/it-aint-easy-being-green/#comment-225681&quot;&gt;Terry&lt;/a&gt;.

I gotta say it; first ND&#039;s answer for a football coach is pathetic... Geo Kelly started the ball rolling when he screwed over Tommy Clements  -  was it an atack on my people??? Now we hav a dude who  as I refer to Brian &quot;they call me cioach&quot; Kelly... at the signing i thought it would be nice to welcome him into our family as coach Kellini... his desire to be on national tv the who game, holding that damn play card with two young men onhis side giving them a play to send in , 20 minutes each play of highlighted tv... fist, the play card belongsin the press box with the offensive coordinator and dig bat show manage the game! and his sideline temper tantrums are a total disgrace and dig bat Jenkins does not address the problem or acknowledge concern (as he does got give a damn about any alumni concerns)... if i designed an offense, i would not be staring at a pice of wood pulp on a third/fourth and one  - a play versus the week study of the opponent would be firm... let&#039;s switch to 12-1 (12-2, 12-3... 12-6,7) Sweet lips Tommy. He could not make the lower Div schools that I observed during their post season playoffs... he has never offered the reason why he screwed over Dayne. We on the left coast analyzed every game... the pathetic promformance against Pitt (and &quot;our man praised him for the 4th quarter &quot;DRIVE&quot;  - 33  minutes of offense and dig bat got a td... check out BC, WF, Stanford.... how could he ever start 12-1 against FSU... that Stanford gutless - &quot;don&#039;t touch me&quot; example of ND football is the worst in history... and we ended up with no offensive td&#039;s... spring ball - why was he given snaps instead of giving Golson and Kiel the work?  - Hell, he already established that Hendrix was not the answer.. as a Leahy&#039;s lad, not much fikm but observe the MASTER on the sideline with Captain Blythe (Joe McArdle in the top of score board with biniculars phoning down the sets and - get this - the splits. We are all (including the 2012 team, watching our man at KU... the ad and bk should take the same bus out of town..   Gerardi   Leahy&#039;s Lad]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2012/05/14/it-aint-easy-being-green/#comment-225681">Terry</a>.</p>
<p>I gotta say it; first ND&#8217;s answer for a football coach is pathetic&#8230; Geo Kelly started the ball rolling when he screwed over Tommy Clements  &#8211;  was it an atack on my people??? Now we hav a dude who  as I refer to Brian &#8220;they call me cioach&#8221; Kelly&#8230; at the signing i thought it would be nice to welcome him into our family as coach Kellini&#8230; his desire to be on national tv the who game, holding that damn play card with two young men onhis side giving them a play to send in , 20 minutes each play of highlighted tv&#8230; fist, the play card belongsin the press box with the offensive coordinator and dig bat show manage the game! and his sideline temper tantrums are a total disgrace and dig bat Jenkins does not address the problem or acknowledge concern (as he does got give a damn about any alumni concerns)&#8230; if i designed an offense, i would not be staring at a pice of wood pulp on a third/fourth and one  &#8211; a play versus the week study of the opponent would be firm&#8230; let&#8217;s switch to 12-1 (12-2, 12-3&#8230; 12-6,7) Sweet lips Tommy. He could not make the lower Div schools that I observed during their post season playoffs&#8230; he has never offered the reason why he screwed over Dayne. We on the left coast analyzed every game&#8230; the pathetic promformance against Pitt (and &#8220;our man praised him for the 4th quarter &#8220;DRIVE&#8221;  &#8211; 33  minutes of offense and dig bat got a td&#8230; check out BC, WF, Stanford&#8230;. how could he ever start 12-1 against FSU&#8230; that Stanford gutless &#8211; &#8220;don&#8217;t touch me&#8221; example of ND football is the worst in history&#8230; and we ended up with no offensive td&#8217;s&#8230; spring ball &#8211; why was he given snaps instead of giving Golson and Kiel the work?  &#8211; Hell, he already established that Hendrix was not the answer.. as a Leahy&#8217;s lad, not much fikm but observe the MASTER on the sideline with Captain Blythe (Joe McArdle in the top of score board with biniculars phoning down the sets and &#8211; get this &#8211; the splits. We are all (including the 2012 team, watching our man at KU&#8230; the ad and bk should take the same bus out of town..   Gerardi   Leahy&#8217;s Lad</p>
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		By: Joe Schulz		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe Schulz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 15:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I like the approach but would have preferred a curved trend line showing that the last few years are &quot;generally&quot; an upswing over the previous ten. I also agree with the comments regarding teams we should beat easily vs. tough opponents. Really good team CRUSH their weaker opponents and GO TO WAR with the better ones. They, like the Bulls when Jordan was there, NEVER MAIL IT IN! 
With our current offensive line I expect this year&#039;s team to beat a lot of opponents into submission. I can live with a few fumbles as long as we kick the crap out of them on the line of scrimmage.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the approach but would have preferred a curved trend line showing that the last few years are &#8220;generally&#8221; an upswing over the previous ten. I also agree with the comments regarding teams we should beat easily vs. tough opponents. Really good team CRUSH their weaker opponents and GO TO WAR with the better ones. They, like the Bulls when Jordan was there, NEVER MAIL IT IN!<br />
With our current offensive line I expect this year&#8217;s team to beat a lot of opponents into submission. I can live with a few fumbles as long as we kick the crap out of them on the line of scrimmage.</p>
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		By: NDtex		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NDtex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 15:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2012/05/14/it-aint-easy-being-green/#comment-225687&quot;&gt;Ripple&lt;/a&gt;.

I actually thought about doing this, but I decided against it. The problem ended up being that any data would be far too subjective from what I had available.

Rankings and even the level our rivals teams play at fluctuate far too much. 2005 is a prime example with Michigan. It was a close win on the road to a rival that wasn&#039;t only ranked, but a title favorite. Michigan though, ended that season 7-5 and a loss in the Alamo Bowl.

Even Vegas lines are bad, especially in ND&#039;s case. ND typically gets a lot of homer bets, which causes the house to push the lines heavier in our favor. Any other popular or successful team will get the same treatment as well. The goal of the spread isn&#039;t a 100% attempt to predict the score, it&#039;s to try and keep the odds in the house&#039;s favor. Again, far too subjective of a metric.

And fan&#039;s expectations...yeah, not even going to try and quantify that.

The bottom line was to keep this data as objective as possible to get an overall picture of the program the past 15 years. There is plenty to be depressed about without me fiddling with subjective data to make it worse.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2012/05/14/it-aint-easy-being-green/#comment-225687">Ripple</a>.</p>
<p>I actually thought about doing this, but I decided against it. The problem ended up being that any data would be far too subjective from what I had available.</p>
<p>Rankings and even the level our rivals teams play at fluctuate far too much. 2005 is a prime example with Michigan. It was a close win on the road to a rival that wasn&#8217;t only ranked, but a title favorite. Michigan though, ended that season 7-5 and a loss in the Alamo Bowl.</p>
<p>Even Vegas lines are bad, especially in ND&#8217;s case. ND typically gets a lot of homer bets, which causes the house to push the lines heavier in our favor. Any other popular or successful team will get the same treatment as well. The goal of the spread isn&#8217;t a 100% attempt to predict the score, it&#8217;s to try and keep the odds in the house&#8217;s favor. Again, far too subjective of a metric.</p>
<p>And fan&#8217;s expectations&#8230;yeah, not even going to try and quantify that.</p>
<p>The bottom line was to keep this data as objective as possible to get an overall picture of the program the past 15 years. There is plenty to be depressed about without me fiddling with subjective data to make it worse.</p>
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		By: Ripple		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 14:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It would be interesting to see the same graph with two colors, green for teams that we we&#039;re supposed to beat soundly (navy, wake, purdue, byu, etc.) and red for teams that we&#039;d like to beat but expect a good game from (usc, mich, mich st, stanford, etc.) - using either the pre-game line, or fans&#039; expectations as a barometer, or both.  I think you&#039;d be struck by how many green dos appear below the line and how few red dots appear above the line.  In other words, the problems have been two-fold - too many losses to teams we should beat soundly and too few comfortable victories against our rivals - both signs of a mid-tier, top 50 team.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be interesting to see the same graph with two colors, green for teams that we we&#8217;re supposed to beat soundly (navy, wake, purdue, byu, etc.) and red for teams that we&#8217;d like to beat but expect a good game from (usc, mich, mich st, stanford, etc.) &#8211; using either the pre-game line, or fans&#8217; expectations as a barometer, or both.  I think you&#8217;d be struck by how many green dos appear below the line and how few red dots appear above the line.  In other words, the problems have been two-fold &#8211; too many losses to teams we should beat soundly and too few comfortable victories against our rivals &#8211; both signs of a mid-tier, top 50 team.</p>
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		By: a68domer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[a68domer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 13:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hope &quot;Springs&quot; eternal.  Every year about this time us alumns/fans just &quot;know&quot; that this will be the year.  Other than a couple of defections, there is nothing to dampen our spirits this year, yet.  This should be the year we conquer the Cardinal at home and the Condoms in their home!  The rest are just warmups - here&#039;s HOPEing.

GO IRISH!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hope &#8220;Springs&#8221; eternal.  Every year about this time us alumns/fans just &#8220;know&#8221; that this will be the year.  Other than a couple of defections, there is nothing to dampen our spirits this year, yet.  This should be the year we conquer the Cardinal at home and the Condoms in their home!  The rest are just warmups &#8211; here&#8217;s HOPEing.</p>
<p>GO IRISH!!</p>
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