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	Comments on: The Shirt:   Color Roulette Lands on a Winner.  Why Do I Feel Like I Lost?	</title>
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		By: The Biscuit		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Biscuit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2012 19:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2012/04/24/the-shirt-color-roulette-lands-on-a-winner-why-do-i-feel-like-i-lost/#comment-224100&quot;&gt;trey&lt;/a&gt;.

One, consistent color for game day.  The official color of ND Stadium, every year, forever.   The Shirt would match that color every year, yet the design would change.  That&#039;s pretty much it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2012/04/24/the-shirt-color-roulette-lands-on-a-winner-why-do-i-feel-like-i-lost/#comment-224100">trey</a>.</p>
<p>One, consistent color for game day.  The official color of ND Stadium, every year, forever.   The Shirt would match that color every year, yet the design would change.  That&#8217;s pretty much it.</p>
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		By: Chesselumps		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 15:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I hate BC.  With that said, and it seriously pains me to say this, I&#039;m jealous of the Boston College Superfan shirt program.  While the particular design of the Superfan shirt isnâ€<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/13.1.0/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />t my favorite, the use of the same shirt color, limited print colors, same frontal graphic, and overall simplicity of the Superfan shirt is what ND should be shooting for with The Shirt.  

http://www.bceagles.com/trads/bc-superfan.html

Confession: My best friend from high school went to BC.  A good deal of our conversations since high school graduation have involved insulting the otherâ€<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/13.1.0/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />s collegiate alma mater.  Nevertheless, we remain great friends to this day.  Every year during my time at ND (i.e., 97-01) the two of us would send each other the respective &quot;shirts&quot; from our schools.  I love ND (too much according to my wife), but the 97-01 versions of The Shirt were terrible.  The colors ranged from baby poop to dog vomit, and the graphic design was obviously outsourced to a blind grade school art teacher.  Each fall, the Superfan fan shirt arrived in the mail with the same goldenrod color, same frontal graphic, and an inspirational quote on the back.  It was simple, it was clean, and it looked good.   If it hadnâ€<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/13.1.0/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />t been a BC shirt, I probably would have worn it around campus.  Each fall, I was embarrassed to send The Shirt to my friend.  

More than a decade removed from my time at ND, I still have the four â€œThe Shirtâ€ shirts and the four BC â€œSuperfanâ€ shirts from those years in my closet.  Each year during my annual closet clean out I have to convince myself that, for loyaltyâ€<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/13.1.0/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />s sake, I have to hold on to the four â€œThe Shirtâ€ shirts despite the fact that they suck and I have not worn any of them since the respective home openers the years they were sold.  

To be fair, The Shirt the last few years, as well as this year, has been better than any of the offerings during my time at ND.  However, I agree with Biscuit that The Shirt can, and needs to be, better.  While a lot of this has been said before, this is what I want from The Shirt:

1.	ABSOLUTLEY NO PRINTED PHOTOGRAPHS â€“ ugh.  
2.	Kelly green fabric every year â€“ This one is a no brainer.  No color says Irish more than kelly green.  
3.	Limit the printed material (designed graphics and text) to two colors â€“ Blue and white, blue and gold, gold and white are the comboâ€<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/13.1.0/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />s Iâ€<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/13.1.0/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />d like to see.  Maybe a darker green with one of those other colors would work too.
4.	The front needs to be simple and consistent.  E.g., Approx.. 3x3 inch ND monogram on the breast with small text below it that says â€œThe Shirtâ€ and the year.
5.	The back can be the thing that distinguishes the shirt from year to year.  Simple designed graphic of the leprechaun, outline of the dome, a helmet, etc., would work.  Idâ€<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/13.1.0/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> be fine with just text of the game schedule on the back.
6.	Above all, keep it simple.  Simple design is both easy and timeless.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate BC.  With that said, and it seriously pains me to say this, I&#8217;m jealous of the Boston College Superfan shirt program.  While the particular design of the Superfan shirt isnâ€™t my favorite, the use of the same shirt color, limited print colors, same frontal graphic, and overall simplicity of the Superfan shirt is what ND should be shooting for with The Shirt.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.bceagles.com/trads/bc-superfan.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.bceagles.com/trads/bc-superfan.html</a></p>
<p>Confession: My best friend from high school went to BC.  A good deal of our conversations since high school graduation have involved insulting the otherâ€™s collegiate alma mater.  Nevertheless, we remain great friends to this day.  Every year during my time at ND (i.e., 97-01) the two of us would send each other the respective &#8220;shirts&#8221; from our schools.  I love ND (too much according to my wife), but the 97-01 versions of The Shirt were terrible.  The colors ranged from baby poop to dog vomit, and the graphic design was obviously outsourced to a blind grade school art teacher.  Each fall, the Superfan fan shirt arrived in the mail with the same goldenrod color, same frontal graphic, and an inspirational quote on the back.  It was simple, it was clean, and it looked good.   If it hadnâ€™t been a BC shirt, I probably would have worn it around campus.  Each fall, I was embarrassed to send The Shirt to my friend.  </p>
<p>More than a decade removed from my time at ND, I still have the four â€œThe Shirtâ€ shirts and the four BC â€œSuperfanâ€ shirts from those years in my closet.  Each year during my annual closet clean out I have to convince myself that, for loyaltyâ€™s sake, I have to hold on to the four â€œThe Shirtâ€ shirts despite the fact that they suck and I have not worn any of them since the respective home openers the years they were sold.  </p>
<p>To be fair, The Shirt the last few years, as well as this year, has been better than any of the offerings during my time at ND.  However, I agree with Biscuit that The Shirt can, and needs to be, better.  While a lot of this has been said before, this is what I want from The Shirt:</p>
<p>1.	ABSOLUTLEY NO PRINTED PHOTOGRAPHS â€“ ugh.<br />
2.	Kelly green fabric every year â€“ This one is a no brainer.  No color says Irish more than kelly green.<br />
3.	Limit the printed material (designed graphics and text) to two colors â€“ Blue and white, blue and gold, gold and white are the comboâ€™s Iâ€™d like to see.  Maybe a darker green with one of those other colors would work too.<br />
4.	The front needs to be simple and consistent.  E.g., Approx.. 3&#215;3 inch ND monogram on the breast with small text below it that says â€œThe Shirtâ€ and the year.<br />
5.	The back can be the thing that distinguishes the shirt from year to year.  Simple designed graphic of the leprechaun, outline of the dome, a helmet, etc., would work.  Idâ€™ be fine with just text of the game schedule on the back.<br />
6.	Above all, keep it simple.  Simple design is both easy and timeless.</p>
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		By: trey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[trey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 17:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2012/04/24/the-shirt-color-roulette-lands-on-a-winner-why-do-i-feel-like-i-lost/#comment-223984&quot;&gt;Louder&lt;/a&gt;.

Im interested in what you think the solution is.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2012/04/24/the-shirt-color-roulette-lands-on-a-winner-why-do-i-feel-like-i-lost/#comment-223984">Louder</a>.</p>
<p>Im interested in what you think the solution is.</p>
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		By: martyirish		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[martyirish]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 13:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I signed]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I signed</p>
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		By: The Biscuit		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Biscuit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 03:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2012/04/24/the-shirt-color-roulette-lands-on-a-winner-why-do-i-feel-like-i-lost/#comment-223984&quot;&gt;Louder&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree it&#039;s an uphill battle and it may be one I can&#039;t win, but what&#039;s right is right and I will continue to fight the good fight.  

Arguing that we can&#039;t have a single color AND teach students business skills AND raise money for charity is simply silly.  Had I been in that room the others would have left convinced or feeling stupid for not being convinced.   I appreciate your support and your efforts, but ND thinks it does no wrong because of the ND Bubble.  But so much is wrong.  This is just one symptom.  I will never yield!!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2012/04/24/the-shirt-color-roulette-lands-on-a-winner-why-do-i-feel-like-i-lost/#comment-223984">Louder</a>.</p>
<p>I agree it&#8217;s an uphill battle and it may be one I can&#8217;t win, but what&#8217;s right is right and I will continue to fight the good fight.  </p>
<p>Arguing that we can&#8217;t have a single color AND teach students business skills AND raise money for charity is simply silly.  Had I been in that room the others would have left convinced or feeling stupid for not being convinced.   I appreciate your support and your efforts, but ND thinks it does no wrong because of the ND Bubble.  But so much is wrong.  This is just one symptom.  I will never yield!!!!</p>
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		By: D'Omer 79		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[D'Omer 79]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 01:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What if it were always a Kelly Green with a NEW design every year?]]></description>
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		By: Trey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Trey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 00:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Honestly, I&#039;d be fine even with a stadium full of either green or blue. But it&#039;s the Red, Orange, Yellow, etc that really screw it all up]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, I&#8217;d be fine even with a stadium full of either green or blue. But it&#8217;s the Red, Orange, Yellow, etc that really screw it all up</p>
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		By: Twibby		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Twibby]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2012 22:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2012/04/24/the-shirt-color-roulette-lands-on-a-winner-why-do-i-feel-like-i-lost/#comment-223997&quot;&gt;NDtex&lt;/a&gt;.

Blackouts ARE awful.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2012/04/24/the-shirt-color-roulette-lands-on-a-winner-why-do-i-feel-like-i-lost/#comment-223997">NDtex</a>.</p>
<p>Blackouts ARE awful.</p>
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		By: GMoney		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GMoney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2012 19:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It would be hard to settle on a color when a good number of fans and students are divided on should it be &quot;green&quot; or &quot;blue&quot;.  When you get down to it, the University itself probably favors both colors strictly from a merchandising perspective.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be hard to settle on a color when a good number of fans and students are divided on should it be &#8220;green&#8221; or &#8220;blue&#8221;.  When you get down to it, the University itself probably favors both colors strictly from a merchandising perspective.</p>
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		By: irishfanatic		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[irishfanatic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2012 17:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Personally, I really like the color and design of the shirt. However, I also agree with Czar that it may not be the best color if we&#039;re trying to make a &quot;unity&quot; statement within ND Stadium. I think if we were trying to achieve that, a nice deep gold color would look great for a night game. Can&#039;t help but to wonder if a night game and day game shirt will be in the conversation when designing it in the future. Of course, that will only happen if we have more night games scheduled at ND stadium.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I really like the color and design of the shirt. However, I also agree with Czar that it may not be the best color if we&#8217;re trying to make a &#8220;unity&#8221; statement within ND Stadium. I think if we were trying to achieve that, a nice deep gold color would look great for a night game. Can&#8217;t help but to wonder if a night game and day game shirt will be in the conversation when designing it in the future. Of course, that will only happen if we have more night games scheduled at ND stadium.</p>
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