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		By: domer.mq		</title>
		<link>https://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/08/11/1a-1b-1c-1-or-33rds/#comment-68641</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 00:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yeah, Brian, I was just looking at everything in the context of top-3 rushers for each team since we&#039;ve got our &quot;3 horses&quot; for ND.  The rushing contribution list for Navy is a mile long.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Brian, I was just looking at everything in the context of top-3 rushers for each team since we&#8217;ve got our &#8220;3 horses&#8221; for ND.  The rushing contribution list for Navy is a mile long.</p>
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		By: Brian		</title>
		<link>https://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/08/11/1a-1b-1c-1-or-33rds/#comment-68637</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 23:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wait, Navy probably has like 8 guys that got significant carries. I get it now.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait, Navy probably has like 8 guys that got significant carries. I get it now.</p>
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		By: Brian		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 23:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Maybe I glanced over this in the post, but what makes Navy the number one rushing stable from last year. I see no discernible statistic posted that the rankings are based on, nor a final score, if you will, of criteria and weight used to measure these teams. Seems that you could make a case that a number of teams had better stats.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe I glanced over this in the post, but what makes Navy the number one rushing stable from last year. I see no discernible statistic posted that the rankings are based on, nor a final score, if you will, of criteria and weight used to measure these teams. Seems that you could make a case that a number of teams had better stats.</p>
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		By: domer.mq		</title>
		<link>https://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/08/11/1a-1b-1c-1-or-33rds/#comment-68630</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[domer.mq]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 22:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ah.  Okay, DTK.  I didn&#039;t really look at game stats.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah.  Okay, DTK.  I didn&#8217;t really look at game stats.</p>
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		By: DeepTeaKup		</title>
		<link>https://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/08/11/1a-1b-1c-1-or-33rds/#comment-68619</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Domer, those stats are a little misleading, Brown and Minor both had huge games against Minnesota.  If you take those totals away, they only had 1 100 yd game between them (Brown vs. Illinois).  So they are still not exactly proven, and they both also had fumble problems during the year.  If there is one thing LC did not tolerate, it was fumbles.  He would bury guys on the bench for that and I think it hurt CB&#039;s and Minor&#039;s development a bit.  You could tell they were both pressing at times last year.  The other thing Hart had over them was consistency, even on bad runs it was rare to see Hart get less than 3 yards. 

I think both of them could do well in the new system, RichRod&#039;s offense does feature a strong running game. Here is how I would break down all of UM&#039;s RB&#039;s for this year
Minor - starter, plays 60-70% of snaps
Brown - may not &quot;start&quot; but he will see action at RB, Slot, and maybe even QB.  Needs to stay healthy and stop breaking fingers and wrists.
Grady - plays the big RB role, I guess the best comparison would be Owen Schmitt from WVU last year, probably won&#039;t see the field until ND game or after
Sam McGuffie - incoming frosh, youtube legend, probably gets 10-12 carries a game by the end of the year
Mike Shaw - incoming frosh, listed as a WR (slot receiver), but I think he will get a few rushes per game

This offense is all about getting the ball to players &quot;in space&quot;, so guys like Brown and McGuffie will probably become the new standard for a UM RB.  the bigger guys like Grady and Minor serve a role but I am not sure if RichRod will continue to bring in that type of RB as much in the future.  The biggest key to the running game for UM this year, getting something of a downfield passing attack with a new QB, because there is absolutely no rush threat from either of the two probable starters.  Otherwise everyone will play 8-9 up near the line and slow down the RB&#039;s.  This offense works well, if you have either a good passing game to go with the rush or a good running QB who can keep LB&#039;s and safties honest.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Domer, those stats are a little misleading, Brown and Minor both had huge games against Minnesota.  If you take those totals away, they only had 1 100 yd game between them (Brown vs. Illinois).  So they are still not exactly proven, and they both also had fumble problems during the year.  If there is one thing LC did not tolerate, it was fumbles.  He would bury guys on the bench for that and I think it hurt CB&#8217;s and Minor&#8217;s development a bit.  You could tell they were both pressing at times last year.  The other thing Hart had over them was consistency, even on bad runs it was rare to see Hart get less than 3 yards. </p>
<p>I think both of them could do well in the new system, RichRod&#8217;s offense does feature a strong running game. Here is how I would break down all of UM&#8217;s RB&#8217;s for this year<br />
Minor &#8211; starter, plays 60-70% of snaps<br />
Brown &#8211; may not &#8220;start&#8221; but he will see action at RB, Slot, and maybe even QB.  Needs to stay healthy and stop breaking fingers and wrists.<br />
Grady &#8211; plays the big RB role, I guess the best comparison would be Owen Schmitt from WVU last year, probably won&#8217;t see the field until ND game or after<br />
Sam McGuffie &#8211; incoming frosh, youtube legend, probably gets 10-12 carries a game by the end of the year<br />
Mike Shaw &#8211; incoming frosh, listed as a WR (slot receiver), but I think he will get a few rushes per game</p>
<p>This offense is all about getting the ball to players &#8220;in space&#8221;, so guys like Brown and McGuffie will probably become the new standard for a UM RB.  the bigger guys like Grady and Minor serve a role but I am not sure if RichRod will continue to bring in that type of RB as much in the future.  The biggest key to the running game for UM this year, getting something of a downfield passing attack with a new QB, because there is absolutely no rush threat from either of the two probable starters.  Otherwise everyone will play 8-9 up near the line and slow down the RB&#8217;s.  This offense works well, if you have either a good passing game to go with the rush or a good running QB who can keep LB&#8217;s and safties honest.</p>
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		By: domer.mq		</title>
		<link>https://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/08/11/1a-1b-1c-1-or-33rds/#comment-68615</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s interesting to hear you say that, DTK, as Brown and Minor had serviceable yds/carry averages.  Hart&#039;s avg. wasn&#039;t overwhelmingly better than theirs.  How do you feel about the new RBs in the new system?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s interesting to hear you say that, DTK, as Brown and Minor had serviceable yds/carry averages.  Hart&#8217;s avg. wasn&#8217;t overwhelmingly better than theirs.  How do you feel about the new RBs in the new system?</p>
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		By: DeepTeaKup		</title>
		<link>https://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/08/11/1a-1b-1c-1-or-33rds/#comment-68607</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DeepTeaKup]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 19:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Domer,

Mike Hart, although a great talent and one of my favority all time UM players, was also Mike Debord and Lloyd Carr&#039;s security blanket.  

Also, remember, I did say I was in favor of the featured back, it can come with a big downside.  Hart is a perfect example of this, when he was hurt watching UM run the ball was painful.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Domer,</p>
<p>Mike Hart, although a great talent and one of my favority all time UM players, was also Mike Debord and Lloyd Carr&#8217;s security blanket.  </p>
<p>Also, remember, I did say I was in favor of the featured back, it can come with a big downside.  Hart is a perfect example of this, when he was hurt watching UM run the ball was painful.</p>
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		By: The Biscuit		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Biscuit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 18:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[They depended on Hart bc Hart embodied all that Michigan stands for:  Sucking.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They depended on Hart bc Hart embodied all that Michigan stands for:  Sucking.</p>
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		By: domer.mq		</title>
		<link>https://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/08/11/1a-1b-1c-1-or-33rds/#comment-68601</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[DTK,

Then why the dependency on Hart?

Also, the Broncos always have a feature back.  They just change it every year so they don&#039;t have to pay anyone.  Seasonal interchangeability is different from in-game interchangeability.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DTK,</p>
<p>Then why the dependency on Hart?</p>
<p>Also, the Broncos always have a feature back.  They just change it every year so they don&#8217;t have to pay anyone.  Seasonal interchangeability is different from in-game interchangeability.</p>
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		By: DeepTeaKup		</title>
		<link>https://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/08/11/1a-1b-1c-1-or-33rds/#comment-68600</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DeepTeaKup]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wednesday,  you are correct I did leave out the &quot;has yet to prove&quot;.  But one word I did not leave out is &quot;consistently&quot;, one year of success with the gournd game does not change that.  

When I watch ND play, specifically when Weis was calling plays, I got the sense that he did not have a lot of patience with the running game. 

Domer,

Actually the UM zone scheme was supposed to remove that dependancy on a featured back, it was supposed to be like the Denver Broncos&#039; running scheme.  The RB&#039;s would have to fit a certain mould: quick feet, good vision, strong cutback ability to play within the system.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wednesday,  you are correct I did leave out the &#8220;has yet to prove&#8221;.  But one word I did not leave out is &#8220;consistently&#8221;, one year of success with the gournd game does not change that.  </p>
<p>When I watch ND play, specifically when Weis was calling plays, I got the sense that he did not have a lot of patience with the running game. </p>
<p>Domer,</p>
<p>Actually the UM zone scheme was supposed to remove that dependancy on a featured back, it was supposed to be like the Denver Broncos&#8217; running scheme.  The RB&#8217;s would have to fit a certain mould: quick feet, good vision, strong cutback ability to play within the system.</p>
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