Comments on: RichRod Can REALLY Get those QBs Going… http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2009/02/16/richrod-can-really-get-those-qbs-going/ The Worst Thing To Ever Happen To ND Football Mon, 06 Feb 2012 20:42:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: trey http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2009/02/16/richrod-can-really-get-those-qbs-going/comment-page-1/#comment-93105 trey Wed, 18 Feb 2009 04:52:50 +0000 http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/?p=2911#comment-93105 Damn, Jim stole my comeback before I could read DTK's rambling. Hmm, what can I use now...oh, here we go: DTK, you suck! Lol. Damn, Jim stole my comeback before I could read DTK’s rambling. Hmm, what can I use now…oh, here we go: DTK, you suck!

Lol.

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]]> By: The Biscuit http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2009/02/16/richrod-can-really-get-those-qbs-going/comment-page-1/#comment-92915 The Biscuit Tue, 17 Feb 2009 01:37:35 +0000 http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/?p=2911#comment-92915 DTK, that's the same rationalization I would use. He wasn't that good granted, but he also faced some injuries and had to learn a whole system this year. But Threet at the least would've been able to help take some of the pressure off the Frosh, and/or provide a buffer for them as the season starts. Granted, you're facing all the Michigans (sucks!), both east and west, and freaking Delaware State to start off the year, so that's probably all the cushion they need. I think come September you'll think it was a bigger loss than you do today. DTK, that’s the same rationalization I would use. He wasn’t that good granted, but he also faced some injuries and had to learn a whole system this year. But Threet at the least would’ve been able to help take some of the pressure off the Frosh, and/or provide a buffer for them as the season starts. Granted, you’re facing all the Michigans (sucks!), both east and west, and freaking Delaware State to start off the year, so that’s probably all the cushion they need. I think come September you’ll think it was a bigger loss than you do today.

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]]> By: DeepTeaKup http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2009/02/16/richrod-can-really-get-those-qbs-going/comment-page-1/#comment-92910 DeepTeaKup Tue, 17 Feb 2009 00:26:29 +0000 http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/?p=2911#comment-92910 Biscuit, UM may very well again be "f-ed" as you so elegantly put it. However, my larger point was that this is, IMO, not really much of a loss. Threet is not really all that good, I don't see how a true FR could be worse at this point. I don't expect eiher to be a Proyor clone, although I would love Minor to step up ala Beanie Wells and take a ton of pressure off. Biscuit, UM may very well again be “f-ed” as you so elegantly put it. However, my larger point was that this is, IMO, not really much of a loss. Threet is not really all that good, I don’t see how a true FR could be worse at this point. I don’t expect eiher to be a Proyor clone, although I would love Minor to step up ala Beanie Wells and take a ton of pressure off.

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]]> By: The Biscuit http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2009/02/16/richrod-can-really-get-those-qbs-going/comment-page-1/#comment-92900 The Biscuit Mon, 16 Feb 2009 23:33:49 +0000 http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/?p=2911#comment-92900 DTK, you guys are f-ed again next year unless one of the 2 new frosh are Pryor clones, and they're not. Besides, you guys suck. DTK, you guys are f-ed again next year unless one of the 2 new frosh are Pryor clones, and they’re not. Besides, you guys suck.

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]]> By: Jim http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2009/02/16/richrod-can-really-get-those-qbs-going/comment-page-1/#comment-92896 Jim Mon, 16 Feb 2009 23:01:03 +0000 http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/?p=2911#comment-92896 2 BCS, 2 poor years filling the hopper and we'll see next year. At least we have 2 years of plus to show which is 2 years more than Michigan, That's how it's going. You got more of the same comming newxt year. We already learned what it means to start a freshman at QB. But we understand going to Michigan, you're a little slower learning. 2 BCS, 2 poor years filling the hopper and we’ll see next year. At least we have 2 years of plus to show which is 2 years more than Michigan, That’s how it’s going. You got more of the same comming newxt year. We already learned what it means to start a freshman at QB. But we understand going to Michigan, you’re a little slower learning.

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]]> By: DeepTeaKup http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2009/02/16/richrod-can-really-get-those-qbs-going/comment-page-1/#comment-92863 DeepTeaKup Mon, 16 Feb 2009 19:25:28 +0000 http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/?p=2911#comment-92863 Oh good, we're back to the usual topics: RR is the devil, UM is worse than ND, etc. My take on this is simple, UM had the worst QB tandem in pretty much the entire NCAA last year. As a UM fan, I would have traded with any team for their top 2 QB's. This was not a case of RR not being able to adapt to his QB's strengths, they frankly had none. Threet and Sheridan seem like great kids and good role models but they had absolutely no business starting for UM last year or any other year. To see RR adapt his system to his QB's strengths, I would consider these examples: Shaun King: At Tulane, Shaun King set the NCAA record for pass efficiency, his OC at the time RR. Shaun King was definitely not what I would call a run first QB. Woody Dantzler: First QB to ever throw for 2000 and rush for 1000 in a season, his OC at the time RR. Pat White: Yeah, he ran a run first system with Pat White but then Pat White may have been one the all time best runners from the QB position, definitely top 5. Losing Threet could turn out to be a loss but the upside is that now UM can move forward with QB's that are a better fit (that is to say, more talented). Trey, I think that 4MM is chump change compared to the 30MM ND has invested with Weis. How's that working out for ya? Oh good, we’re back to the usual topics: RR is the devil, UM is worse than ND, etc.

My take on this is simple, UM had the worst QB tandem in pretty much the entire NCAA last year. As a UM fan, I would have traded with any team for their top 2 QB’s. This was not a case of RR not being able to adapt to his QB’s strengths, they frankly had none. Threet and Sheridan seem like great kids and good role models but they had absolutely no business starting for UM last year or any other year.

To see RR adapt his system to his QB’s strengths, I would consider these examples:
Shaun King: At Tulane, Shaun King set the NCAA record for pass efficiency, his OC at the time RR. Shaun King was definitely not what I would call a run first QB.
Woody Dantzler: First QB to ever throw for 2000 and rush for 1000 in a season, his OC at the time RR.
Pat White: Yeah, he ran a run first system with Pat White but then Pat White may have been one the all time best runners from the QB position, definitely top 5.

Losing Threet could turn out to be a loss but the upside is that now UM can move forward with QB’s that are a better fit (that is to say, more talented).

Trey, I think that 4MM is chump change compared to the 30MM ND has invested with Weis. How’s that working out for ya?

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]]> By: trey http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2009/02/16/richrod-can-really-get-those-qbs-going/comment-page-1/#comment-92853 trey Mon, 16 Feb 2009 18:33:13 +0000 http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/?p=2911#comment-92853 It was somewhat comforting to see UM(s!) totally disintegrate like we did a few years ago last season. But it'll still be even sweeter to see them mired in similar, if not worse, fetid competition for years to come. Boy, that 4 million dollar buyout plus exorbitant contract will REALLY be worth it, huh? It was somewhat comforting to see UM(s!) totally disintegrate like we did a few years ago last season. But it’ll still be even sweeter to see them mired in similar, if not worse, fetid competition for years to come. Boy, that 4 million dollar buyout plus exorbitant contract will REALLY be worth it, huh?

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