December 12, 2008

The Youth Manifesto – Part 2: Defense

The Biscuit

I reviewed the offense here, and I’ll publish the same stats here for the D.  I felt like the defense progressed during the year, and I was pretty impressed with their development.  Despite a somewhat patch-work DL, they played well throughout the season.   The biggest issue was consistency (sound familiar?).  Just when it seemed like an opposing offense had NO shot at moving the ball against us, we’d give up a nice, long 70 yard drive for a TD.  A D that was stiff and stout and whatever-else-means-the-ball-ain’t-moving, would all of a sudden become soft and easy.  Some of it was a delay in adjusting to an Offense’s half-time adjustments.  Some of it was our guys getting tired when the O started going 3 and out repeatedly.  Some of it was probably youth and depth issues.  I’m not sure why, but those shifts seemed to happen in each game. 

Another aspect that never really materialized was all that pressure we were going to bring on the QB.  The blitz packages seemed more basic than what Tenuta did at Tech, but that could be a function of his personnel, his working with Corwin, or maybe both.  But whatever it is, I’m hoping we can get a few more Irish players in the backfield next year and really cause some disruption.

% Underclassmen Starting

Top 10 & ND
PSU 0%
USC 9%
Texas 18%
Alabama 27%
OK 27%
Utah 27%
Tex. Tech 27%
Boise St 27%
ND 36%
OSU 36%
Florida 64%

Holy Lord, Florida is super-young on Defense too.  This is going to be a powerhouse of a team the next few years.  I really hope they get stomped in the NC.  This smells likey Dynasty, and I don’t like it.  PSU is a really experienced team, and I think it has a lot to do with how well they performed this year.  Yes, you can have a crappy team with a ton of seniors starting, but it’s a heck of a lot easier to build a winning season around seasoned players than raw guys straight from Prom.

ND’s D stacks up as relatively young compared to other Top 10 teams, but nowhere near the majority of young players starting on Offense for the Irish. 

ND Opponents
BC 9%
Navy 9%
USC 9%
Michigan 18%
Stanford 18%
Purdue 27%
Washington 27%
ND 36%
MSU 36%
Pitt 36%
Syracuse 36%
UNC 55%

ND’s offense definitely faced some pretty experienced squads this year.  Only UNC was a ‘fair’ matchup in terms of age, when ND’s 55% underclass offense faced a D with the same number of young guys.  The rest of the defenses were significantly older than the Irish O.

ND’s D falls right in the middle on % Underclassmen.  Next year I don’t expect much of a difference, with young guys like Blanton and Johnson likely becoming starters and keeping the youngness of the D intact.  But it will be nice to have a LB corps full of Juniors.  Hopefully Tenuta can use that experience to bring the heat for real next season.

Months in the Program

Top 10 & ND
PSU 37
USC 36
Texas 31
Boise St 30
OSU 29
Tex. Tech 29
ND 29
Utah 28
Alabama 27
OK 27
Florida 20
   
ND Opponents
Navy 39
Stanford 36
USC 36
Michigan 32
BC 32
MSU 29
ND 29
Washington 28
Pitt 28
Purdue 27
Syracuse 25
UNC 24

ND pops up the list a bit on this measure, as the upperclassmen are somewhat heavy on Seniors relative to Juniors, which bumps their numbers up a bit.  Kuntz, Bruton, Crum and company have been around for a while, and while they’re not the most heralded recruiting class, they helped form the core of the D this year.  New leaders will have to emerge next year. 

ND’s inability to put up mad crazy points against a young/crazy bad Syracuse D is also especially maddening when looking at where they fall on this chart.

Average Letters

Top 10 & ND
USC 2.5
PSU 2.3
OK 2.1
Texas 2.1
OSU 2.0
Tex. Tech 1.9
ND 1.7
Alabama 1.6
Utah 1.5
Boise St 1.5
Florida 1.1
   
ND Opponents
USC 2.5
BC 2.4
Stanford 2.1
Navy 2.1
MSU 1.9
Purdue 1.9
Pitt 1.9
Michigan 1.9
ND 1.7
Washington 1.4
Syracuse 1.3
UNC 1.1

Not surprisingly, similar story.  ND’s D is pretty young, and is only more experienced than 3 teams on the schedule.  But not as young as the O.

So if everything’s so consistent, why did I run all three sets of numbers?  Well, I thought that folks could poke holes in the % Underclassmen.  “Well, if you have a bunch of young folks and they play with a bunch of 5th years, it evens out.”  That’s legit.  And then I thought people might bring up the experience angle – represented in avg letters earned – and that’d be legit too.  “Yeah, we’re young, but our players have a lot of game experience.”   But in the end, things fell out pretty consistently.  Across an offensive or defensive roster, experience and age and all that tie together.  While we may have somewhat more experienced young guys than an average team, they’re still just young.  In 2 years, we’ll be the oldest freaking kid on the block.   But for now, we have a young team often fighting against guys that average 1-2 years older.  It’s most definitely not an excuse, but I can’t wait til we’re older than everyone we play against, and (hopefully) able to just beat up on them with some solid, experienced talent.

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7 Comments

At December 12th, 2008 at 2:17 pm, san diego irish said...

I think blitzing is most effective when the offensive line has its hands full with the defensive line and then you send a db or linebacker and there is no one to pick up the blizter. In ND’s case, there was no consistent push from the D line and so opposing offensive lines were still able to pick up the blitz most of the time. Unlike the O-line, the D-line, minus Kuntz, is very inexperienced and should be much improved next year just by natural growth, strength, etc.

At December 12th, 2008 at 2:31 pm, The Biscuit said...

SD, totally agree. I think Johnson is going to be a beast even as a sophomore. Ian Williams didn’t have quite the year he had last year, but he also didnt play much earlier in the season. Hoping for big things from him as well. Who will be the third down guy that can really get it done though? Lewis-Moore? Newman?

At December 12th, 2008 at 3:27 pm, san diego irish said...

It’s always interesting to me how we hear so much about how player x or player y is doing in spring ball or fall camp. But then once the season starts, if a guy doesn’t make it on the field, it’s like they disappear. So I have no idea if Lewis-Moore on Newman are expected to make a push but it seemed like the coaches were pretty high on both of them early on.

Hafis Williams, Sean Cwynar? Same goes for them I suppose.

I thought Ian Williams looked very good at a couple of points towards the end of his freshman year and I really had high expectations for him this year. I remember a couple of plays in the Stanford game that year where he just destroyed their O line. Unfortunately, I can’t remember seeing any repeat performances this year. Maybe he was getting more attention this year from opposing offensives without Laws around.

I think the plan may be to have guys like Fleming and Filer playing outside, with the ability to rush or drop into coverage, somewhat like UCLA had a couple of years ago with their two outstanding defensive ends. If you could get a decent push up the middle with those two guys coming off the corner (not to mention Neal and Richardson) I think the defense could be scary good next year.

At December 12th, 2008 at 5:08 pm, The Biscuit said...

ah, yeah, Cwynar is a big time guy too. he could have an impact.

At December 13th, 2008 at 12:34 am, qb said...

is this why we lost to syracuse? will the we’re too young excuse finally gonna end next year?

At December 15th, 2008 at 12:37 pm, The Biscuit said...

qb, you should hang out with sean.

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