Comments on: The Youth Manifesto – Part 1: Offense http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/12/10/the-youth-manifesto-part-1-offense/ Just a few guys loving the same woman and talking Irish Football. Thu, 18 Mar 2010 21:58:42 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Her Loyal Sons » The Youth AND EXPERIENCE Manifesto: Off-season Edition http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/12/10/the-youth-manifesto-part-1-offense/comment-page-1/#comment-109947 Her Loyal Sons » The Youth AND EXPERIENCE Manifesto: Off-season Edition Wed, 03 Jun 2009 20:23:47 +0000 http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/?p=2660#comment-109947 [...] it’s back baby! Okay, so I harped on this just a bit in the past. Maybe a little. But not too too much. Right right? [...] [...] it’s back baby! Okay, so I harped on this just a bit in the past. Maybe a little. But not too too much. Right right? [...]

]]> By: Her Loyal Sons » The Youth Manifesto - Party 3: Total Team Stats http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/12/10/the-youth-manifesto-part-1-offense/comment-page-1/#comment-82706 Her Loyal Sons » The Youth Manifesto - Party 3: Total Team Stats Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:02:23 +0000 http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/?p=2660#comment-82706 [...] now, I’m SURE you’ve thoroughly read, thought about and analyzed Part 1: Offense and Part 2:  Defense of the Youth Manifesto.  So this post brings it all [...] [...] now, I’m SURE you’ve thoroughly read, thought about and analyzed Part 1: Offense and Part 2:  Defense of the Youth Manifesto.  So this post brings it all [...]

]]> By: Her Loyal Sons » The Youth Manifesto - Part 2: Defense http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/12/10/the-youth-manifesto-part-1-offense/comment-page-1/#comment-82140 Her Loyal Sons » The Youth Manifesto - Part 2: Defense Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:50:19 +0000 http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/?p=2660#comment-82140 [...] reviewed the offense here, and I’ll publish the same stats here for the D.  I felt like the defense progressed during [...] [...] reviewed the offense here, and I’ll publish the same stats here for the D.  I felt like the defense progressed during [...]

]]> By: Jim http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/12/10/the-youth-manifesto-part-1-offense/comment-page-1/#comment-82139 Jim Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:35:50 +0000 http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/?p=2660#comment-82139 You did accomplish the goal. Really appreciate the analysis. I think the mess we have been in is like any other mess. There are multiple issues, Coaching, schematics, on & off the field leadership and yes... youth. The real question is how much can be corrected and how quickly. My biggest concern is o-line. If it isn't corrected in spring practice, the team will be mediocre next year and these guys will be seniors. Which means that 2010,we are looking at youth again. Think about that one Biscuit. Good article. You did accomplish the goal. Really appreciate the analysis.
I think the mess we have been in is like any other mess. There are multiple issues, Coaching, schematics, on & off the field leadership and yes… youth. The real question is how much can be corrected and how quickly. My biggest concern is o-line. If it isn’t corrected in spring practice, the team will be mediocre next year and these guys will be seniors. Which means that 2010,we are looking at youth again. Think about that one Biscuit.
Good article.

]]> By: The Biscuit http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/12/10/the-youth-manifesto-part-1-offense/comment-page-1/#comment-82119 The Biscuit Fri, 12 Dec 2008 16:33:29 +0000 http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/?p=2660#comment-82119 sean. 1 - this is offense only . there are defenses on teams as well. and the matchups of offense vs defense will figure into any analysis of impact. if a young offense faced young defenses all year, the impact would be diminished. and vice versa. 2 - this is a sample of < 20% of all FBS teams. you can't say there's no correlation with a sample that small. at least not a representative one. plus, any correlation or regression/causation analysis would have to take into consideration a whole host of factors (talent level, competition/SOS, coaching quality, weather, injuries, blah blah blah) and account for those before isolating the impact of relative age. that's exactly why i didn't say that youth caused all our problems this year (that and i don't believe it's the case) and just stuck to the facts: we're a young team. but really, if you dont think relative youth has ANY impact on results on the field, you either don't watch much football or don't like thinking about things. at the least, you can admit that 22 year olds tend to be bigger faster and stronger than 18 year olds, all things held equal, yes? 3 - my stated goal with the post was to show that the Irish are relatively young on offense compared to Top 10 teams (except UF) and compared to our competition. that was accomplished. sean. 1 – this is offense only . there are defenses on teams as well. and the matchups of offense vs defense will figure into any analysis of impact. if a young offense faced young defenses all year, the impact would be diminished. and vice versa. 2 – this is a sample of < 20% of all FBS teams. you can’t say there’s no correlation with a sample that small. at least not a representative one. plus, any correlation or regression/causation analysis would have to take into consideration a whole host of factors (talent level, competition/SOS, coaching quality, weather, injuries, blah blah blah) and account for those before isolating the impact of relative age. that’s exactly why i didn’t say that youth caused all our problems this year (that and i don’t believe it’s the case) and just stuck to the facts: we’re a young team. but really, if you dont think relative youth has ANY impact on results on the field, you either don’t watch much football or don’t like thinking about things. at the least, you can admit that 22 year olds tend to be bigger faster and stronger than 18 year olds, all things held equal, yes? 3 – my stated goal with the post was to show that the Irish are relatively young on offense compared to Top 10 teams (except UF) and compared to our competition. that was accomplished.

]]> By: sean http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/12/10/the-youth-manifesto-part-1-offense/comment-page-1/#comment-82107 sean Fri, 12 Dec 2008 14:51:20 +0000 http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/?p=2660#comment-82107 I will say it again. If youth is a significant factor, we should see some correlation between wins and any of these metrics. More youth should equal fewer wins. I know it doesn't make sense, but youth appears to have no impact on the number of wins. If you think this is a bad post, please explain why the plots show no correlation. I will say it again. If youth is a significant factor, we should see some correlation between wins and any of these metrics. More youth should equal fewer wins. I know it doesn’t make sense, but youth appears to have no impact on the number of wins. If you think this is a bad post, please explain why the plots show no correlation.

]]> By: The Biscuit http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/12/10/the-youth-manifesto-part-1-offense/comment-page-1/#comment-82066 The Biscuit Fri, 12 Dec 2008 06:02:16 +0000 http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/?p=2660#comment-82066 sbb, yes. but tebow entered as a young player with a lot of sr. leadership. he had time to grow. JC was given to the wolves. he needed to survive, let alone learn. let's judge him post-2009. he'll be a jr. to be fair, quinn wasnt much of a leader as a sophomore. just a dude winging balls all over the place (like BK. ha). sbb, yes. but tebow entered as a young player with a lot of sr. leadership. he had time to grow. JC was given to the wolves. he needed to survive, let alone learn. let’s judge him post-2009. he’ll be a jr. to be fair, quinn wasnt much of a leader as a sophomore. just a dude winging balls all over the place (like BK. ha).

]]> By: www.southbendblarney.com http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/12/10/the-youth-manifesto-part-1-offense/comment-page-1/#comment-82054 www.southbendblarney.com Fri, 12 Dec 2008 03:32:13 +0000 http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/?p=2660#comment-82054 Youth makes mistakes, but I think the team has a lot of mental issues (3-9 last year) that is even more of a factor. Also, Jimmy clause does not appear to be a great leader, and it is no coincidence that Florida is great-and Tebow is a great leader that takes responsibility. Youth makes mistakes, but I think the team has a lot of mental issues (3-9 last year) that is even more of a factor.

Also, Jimmy clause does not appear to be a great leader, and it is no coincidence that Florida is great-and Tebow is a great leader that takes responsibility.

]]> By: solo076 http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/12/10/the-youth-manifesto-part-1-offense/comment-page-1/#comment-82030 solo076 Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:14:39 +0000 http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/?p=2660#comment-82030 We gave away Pitt, Syracuse and UNC that would have put us 9-3...but i understand your generosity at 8-4. If ND has a sack-master (damn I miss Trevor) then we win those games. We gave away Pitt, Syracuse and UNC that would have put us 9-3…but i understand your generosity at 8-4. If ND has a sack-master (damn I miss Trevor) then we win those games.

]]> By: The Biscuit http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/12/10/the-youth-manifesto-part-1-offense/comment-page-1/#comment-82025 The Biscuit Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:26:37 +0000 http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/?p=2660#comment-82025 but mark, i said it's not an excuse. it's not a rationalization - i think we should've been/could've been 8-4 with this young team. but that doesnt mean we're not young. especially on O. i'll get to D and overall later. thanks for the commendation. but mark, i said it’s not an excuse. it’s not a rationalization – i think we should’ve been/could’ve been 8-4 with this young team. but that doesnt mean we’re not young. especially on O. i’ll get to D and overall later. thanks for the commendation.

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