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		<title>By: The Biscuit</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Biscuit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, Butch Davis went to the pros, and a ton of cash.  That is not the same thing. 

And to everyone who claims Weis isn&#039;t &#039;developing talent&#039; - talent does not develop in 12 games or 2 seasons.  Especially when it&#039;s fed to the fire in year 1. I am fine with the criticism, but people need some perspective here.  We were one of the youngest teams in D1 last year, and we&#039;re not much better this year.  Its not an excuse, its reality.  Frosh and sophomores don&#039;t play like JRs and SRs til they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, Butch Davis went to the pros, and a ton of cash.  That is not the same thing. </p>
<p>And to everyone who claims Weis isn&#8217;t &#8216;developing talent&#8217; &#8211; talent does not develop in 12 games or 2 seasons.  Especially when it&#8217;s fed to the fire in year 1. I am fine with the criticism, but people need some perspective here.  We were one of the youngest teams in D1 last year, and we&#8217;re not much better this year.  Its not an excuse, its reality.  Frosh and sophomores don&#8217;t play like JRs and SRs til they are.</p>
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		<title>By: Luckeye Hater</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luckeye Hater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 15:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michigan fan here,

As a fan of one of your rivals, I also hope for CW to get canned. He is not living up to the standard that ND should (and does) have. He may be smart (though perhaps that is overrated), and he seems to be a good recruiter. However, he is clearly not cut out for the job of head coach. 

I once saw a fascinating quote from Washington Redskins&#039; coach Joe Gibbs. Someone asked him why he thought he could still coach, even when so much had changed while he had been away from the game. He replied, &quot;Well, human nature hasn&#039;t changed, has it?&quot; 

To me, that is the element of coaching that CW is missing. So much of football, particularly at the lower levels, is about motivation. How do you get a group of kids to band together and throw their bodies around so violently? It clearly takes more than &quot;tactical smarts&quot; or just putting good players on the field. 

So good luck in your coaching search, if you have one. Over here at Michigan we certainly (now) understand how hard it is to change coaches, the dreaded &quot;transition&quot; and all that. But bringing in someone new for ND may actually be perfect timing. A lot of good players are in place. If you find the right head guy, you may be headed for the MNC sooner than you think.

Sincerely,
Luckeye Hater</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michigan fan here,</p>
<p>As a fan of one of your rivals, I also hope for CW to get canned. He is not living up to the standard that ND should (and does) have. He may be smart (though perhaps that is overrated), and he seems to be a good recruiter. However, he is clearly not cut out for the job of head coach. </p>
<p>I once saw a fascinating quote from Washington Redskins&#8217; coach Joe Gibbs. Someone asked him why he thought he could still coach, even when so much had changed while he had been away from the game. He replied, &#8220;Well, human nature hasn&#8217;t changed, has it?&#8221; </p>
<p>To me, that is the element of coaching that CW is missing. So much of football, particularly at the lower levels, is about motivation. How do you get a group of kids to band together and throw their bodies around so violently? It clearly takes more than &#8220;tactical smarts&#8221; or just putting good players on the field. </p>
<p>So good luck in your coaching search, if you have one. Over here at Michigan we certainly (now) understand how hard it is to change coaches, the dreaded &#8220;transition&#8221; and all that. But bringing in someone new for ND may actually be perfect timing. A lot of good players are in place. If you find the right head guy, you may be headed for the MNC sooner than you think.</p>
<p>Sincerely,<br />
Luckeye Hater</p>
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		<title>By: TKlibe</title>
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		<dc:creator>TKlibe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 01:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with southbendblarney. Notre Dame just doesn&#039;t have the same aura they used to. And without a coach that apparently has a gift for recruiting, who&#039;s to continue to bring in the talent? A loss to 2-8 Syracuse? Inexcusable. Settling for a coach that goes 12-0, and runs the program into the ground? Just as bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with southbendblarney. Notre Dame just doesn&#8217;t have the same aura they used to. And without a coach that apparently has a gift for recruiting, who&#8217;s to continue to bring in the talent? A loss to 2-8 Syracuse? Inexcusable. Settling for a coach that goes 12-0, and runs the program into the ground? Just as bad.</p>
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		<title>By: www.southbendblarney.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>www.southbendblarney.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 05:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love Irish football.  I want to believe that Weis has shown Notre Dame can still recruit with the best.  Rivals says yes, but the Irish don&#039;t look all that athletically gifted on the field (except Floyd and Tate).  

Also, from an unbiased opinion, what recruiting advantages do the Irish have over a Southern Cal or other warm weather power?  Or even an Ohio State?  The Irish once had mystique over everyone (like the Yankees), but it is fading. 

Listened to Cowherd today, and he brought up some good points.  ND is academically strict, small, isolated, cold, with religious overtones.  Does that sound attractive to stud recruits in warm weather climates?

Normally, I could argue against any negative recruiting comments towards Notre Dame (even Cowherd&#039;s that I brought up), but am beginning to wonder if I am too emotionally attached to see reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love Irish football.  I want to believe that Weis has shown Notre Dame can still recruit with the best.  Rivals says yes, but the Irish don&#8217;t look all that athletically gifted on the field (except Floyd and Tate).  </p>
<p>Also, from an unbiased opinion, what recruiting advantages do the Irish have over a Southern Cal or other warm weather power?  Or even an Ohio State?  The Irish once had mystique over everyone (like the Yankees), but it is fading. </p>
<p>Listened to Cowherd today, and he brought up some good points.  ND is academically strict, small, isolated, cold, with religious overtones.  Does that sound attractive to stud recruits in warm weather climates?</p>
<p>Normally, I could argue against any negative recruiting comments towards Notre Dame (even Cowherd&#8217;s that I brought up), but am beginning to wonder if I am too emotionally attached to see reality.</p>
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		<title>By: san diego irish</title>
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		<dc:creator>san diego irish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 22:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You all make a lot of good points for and against Weis continuing. It&#039;s not an easy decision. Until BC I was confident that things were headed in the right direction. On the one hand, I can see drastic improvement next year with better offensive line play, which could happen with a new offensive line coach. On the other hand has there been any sign at all this year of a sophisticated, creative, unpredictable offense? With the exception of Tate and Floyd out running and out jumping guys on fly patterns and fades,and some nice throws by Jimmy, there&#039;s not much there. Stretch run right and left, screen right and left, outs, quick slants, flies, fades and Rudolph up the seam. It seems we only run about six or eight plays. Considering that you can&#039;t run at all, it&#039;s not hard to defend against 6 or 8 pass plays. Maybe Jimmy hasn&#039;t had time to master enough of the playbook yet, but I don&#039;t remember being all that impressed with Weis&#039; creativity even in the BQ years. I keep expecting him to open the playbook with all the speed we now have on the field, but it never seems to happen. When I think about it that way, I&#039;m not sure an improved running game will be enough to get us past 9 or 10 wins even with an experienced, mature team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You all make a lot of good points for and against Weis continuing. It&#8217;s not an easy decision. Until BC I was confident that things were headed in the right direction. On the one hand, I can see drastic improvement next year with better offensive line play, which could happen with a new offensive line coach. On the other hand has there been any sign at all this year of a sophisticated, creative, unpredictable offense? With the exception of Tate and Floyd out running and out jumping guys on fly patterns and fades,and some nice throws by Jimmy, there&#8217;s not much there. Stretch run right and left, screen right and left, outs, quick slants, flies, fades and Rudolph up the seam. It seems we only run about six or eight plays. Considering that you can&#8217;t run at all, it&#8217;s not hard to defend against 6 or 8 pass plays. Maybe Jimmy hasn&#8217;t had time to master enough of the playbook yet, but I don&#8217;t remember being all that impressed with Weis&#8217; creativity even in the BQ years. I keep expecting him to open the playbook with all the speed we now have on the field, but it never seems to happen. When I think about it that way, I&#8217;m not sure an improved running game will be enough to get us past 9 or 10 wins even with an experienced, mature team.</p>
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		<title>By: domer.mq</title>
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		<dc:creator>domer.mq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 22:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark Makers,

You can&#039;t play the &quot;if only&quot; game.  If only ND hadn&#039;t forced the fumble by SDSU at the 1&quot; line, ND would have lost to SDSU.  That would be 2 losses to fired coaches in the season.
I hope if Weis is retained, he learns and we have a successful season, but I&#039;m done trying to find reasons to believe.  How about just win and show me?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark Makers,</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t play the &#8220;if only&#8221; game.  If only ND hadn&#8217;t forced the fumble by SDSU at the 1&#8243; line, ND would have lost to SDSU.  That would be 2 losses to fired coaches in the season.<br />
I hope if Weis is retained, he learns and we have a successful season, but I&#8217;m done trying to find reasons to believe.  How about just win and show me?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Makers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Makers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 21:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the 49 yarder carries another yard or if Maust doesn&#039;t bobble the snap, the posts would be a lot different.  Keep things in perspective. We suck, but the level of despair would be an order lower. 

2M/year is way too steep for on-the-job training.  We been hosed.  But, if he stays another year, he may figure out a thing or two and may get to where he can compete.  I only hope, because he ain&#039;t getting canned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the 49 yarder carries another yard or if Maust doesn&#8217;t bobble the snap, the posts would be a lot different.  Keep things in perspective. We suck, but the level of despair would be an order lower. </p>
<p>2M/year is way too steep for on-the-job training.  We been hosed.  But, if he stays another year, he may figure out a thing or two and may get to where he can compete.  I only hope, because he ain&#8217;t getting canned.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 08:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg, the loss to Syracuse wasn&#039;t some absurd fluke in the vein of USC-Stanford last year.  The issue isn&#039;t particularly about losing to Syracuse per se.  That game just happened to be the proverbial straw that broke the camel&#039;s back.  It was the latest pathetic effort in a season full of underperformance.  If we had closed out the games we should have this season and then lost this past weekend, the fanbase would be understandingly angered, but you would not find such a broad, serious consensus that Weis cannot successfully coach this program.  As it stands, aside from recruiting and use of a pro-ready QB in Quinn, Weis has failed to show any sort of coaching brilliance, or even any coaching ability.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg, the loss to Syracuse wasn&#8217;t some absurd fluke in the vein of USC-Stanford last year.  The issue isn&#8217;t particularly about losing to Syracuse per se.  That game just happened to be the proverbial straw that broke the camel&#8217;s back.  It was the latest pathetic effort in a season full of underperformance.  If we had closed out the games we should have this season and then lost this past weekend, the fanbase would be understandingly angered, but you would not find such a broad, serious consensus that Weis cannot successfully coach this program.  As it stands, aside from recruiting and use of a pro-ready QB in Quinn, Weis has failed to show any sort of coaching brilliance, or even any coaching ability.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 07:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What if you are all wrong?  Maybe Weis will learn from this year.  Maybe he wasn&#039;t good enough this year.  Maybe he will be good enough next year.  You can&#039;t tell me you know for a fact that he can never win a NC at ND just because he lost to SU.  People talk about ND being short-sighted with the contract extension.  Look in the mirror.  Maybe the fans calling for Weis to be fired are being short-sighted.  Maybe a year of maturity for everybody on the team and the coaching staff is the difference between 6-6 and 12-0.  Nobody can say for sure it is not.  I think you knew Willingham was never going to win.  Same with Davie.  I don&#039;t get that feeling with Weis.  I get the feeling that he is a developing head coach with the potential to get us to the top.  The frustrating thing about Weis to most people is they think past results are indication of future performance.  But with someone as intelligent and hard-working as Weis, I don&#039;t think that is the case.  That being said, lose more than 1 game next year and I will support a change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if you are all wrong?  Maybe Weis will learn from this year.  Maybe he wasn&#8217;t good enough this year.  Maybe he will be good enough next year.  You can&#8217;t tell me you know for a fact that he can never win a NC at ND just because he lost to SU.  People talk about ND being short-sighted with the contract extension.  Look in the mirror.  Maybe the fans calling for Weis to be fired are being short-sighted.  Maybe a year of maturity for everybody on the team and the coaching staff is the difference between 6-6 and 12-0.  Nobody can say for sure it is not.  I think you knew Willingham was never going to win.  Same with Davie.  I don&#8217;t get that feeling with Weis.  I get the feeling that he is a developing head coach with the potential to get us to the top.  The frustrating thing about Weis to most people is they think past results are indication of future performance.  But with someone as intelligent and hard-working as Weis, I don&#8217;t think that is the case.  That being said, lose more than 1 game next year and I will support a change.</p>
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		<title>By: solo076</title>
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		<dc:creator>solo076</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 03:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The landscape of NCAA football has changed. Good recruits go where they can get playing time and exposure. ND will still be able to get recruits. Ty just chose not to go after them. Needed is a coach who can do more with less. Should they have locked up CW for such a long contract? No, half maybe but we are a little stuck at the moment. can we cut(?)..sure we can but how much worse could it be for another year? Michigan can tell you all about coaching changes, and Rod did more with less prior to the Wolverines now look at him. Point is it cant get much worse so why not take chances for another year? We pretty much can agree that the program was in ruins prior to CW and another year would not hurt. Think of all the first time worst(s) in history we have had the last two years, are there any more out there? Mark-points well taken but take the bowl its on par with how the team has performed and the kids deserve a high note of some kind, maybe then they can play with a sustained level of emotion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The landscape of NCAA football has changed. Good recruits go where they can get playing time and exposure. ND will still be able to get recruits. Ty just chose not to go after them. Needed is a coach who can do more with less. Should they have locked up CW for such a long contract? No, half maybe but we are a little stuck at the moment. can we cut(?)..sure we can but how much worse could it be for another year? Michigan can tell you all about coaching changes, and Rod did more with less prior to the Wolverines now look at him. Point is it cant get much worse so why not take chances for another year? We pretty much can agree that the program was in ruins prior to CW and another year would not hurt. Think of all the first time worst(s) in history we have had the last two years, are there any more out there? Mark-points well taken but take the bowl its on par with how the team has performed and the kids deserve a high note of some kind, maybe then they can play with a sustained level of emotion.</p>
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