Comments on: Gaining Experience Almost Costs the Game? http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/11/18/gaining-experience-almost-costs-the-game/ The Worst Thing To Ever Happen To ND Football Mon, 06 Feb 2012 20:42:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: scott http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/11/18/gaining-experience-almost-costs-the-game/comment-page-1/#comment-79675 scott Wed, 19 Nov 2008 04:08:54 +0000 http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/?p=2469#comment-79675 "Now that Charlie has tried to get his kids some experience? Bashing him for that. The guy can’t win either way. Literally damned if he does, and damned if he doesn’t." Are you kidding me? We're an emotionally fragile team that's lost 3 out of our last 4 games, facing a team that dealt us our most infamous loss in our most infamous season one year ago. Oh yeah, and that same team came back from a 3 TD 4th quarter deficit just a couple of weeks ago, and our guys have repeatedly shown that they cannot finish when they've got the other team on the ropes. In contrast, the 2006 team was a veteran-dominated unit with no history of repeatedly letting inferior opponents up off the mat. Nor were they coming off a harrowing stretch of losses (the scUM prison rape was a distant memory by the time the Navy game rolled around) that had turned them into a bunch of head cases. The contexts of the 2006/2008 games couldn't be more different. And Charlie was wrong in both instances. “Now that Charlie has tried to get his kids some experience? Bashing him for that. The guy can’t win either way. Literally damned if he does, and damned if he doesn’t.”

Are you kidding me? We’re an emotionally fragile team that’s lost 3 out of our last 4 games, facing a team that dealt us our most infamous loss in our most infamous season one year ago. Oh yeah, and that same team came back from a 3 TD 4th quarter deficit just a couple of weeks ago, and our guys have repeatedly shown that they cannot finish when they’ve got the other team on the ropes.

In contrast, the 2006 team was a veteran-dominated unit with no history of repeatedly letting inferior opponents up off the mat. Nor were they coming off a harrowing stretch of losses (the scUM prison rape was a distant memory by the time the Navy game rolled around) that had turned them into a bunch of head cases.

The contexts of the 2006/2008 games couldn’t be more different. And Charlie was wrong in both instances.

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]]> By: The Biscuit http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/11/18/gaining-experience-almost-costs-the-game/comment-page-1/#comment-79624 The Biscuit Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:47:25 +0000 http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/?p=2469#comment-79624 To both, 100% agree. To both, 100% agree.

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]]> By: tjak http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/11/18/gaining-experience-almost-costs-the-game/comment-page-1/#comment-79621 tjak Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:28:28 +0000 http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/?p=2469#comment-79621 When I was in grade seven I was a starting guard on the St. Andrew's Saints school's elementary basketball team. We were playing a school named Fairburn one day and found ourselves up by 38 points at the half. Our coach Mr.Morgan ever the kind man did not want to embarrass the other squad. So he put in our seconds and thirds. I felt okay with this until we were up 6 with two minutes left. I begged him to put the firsts back in, but he said not to worry, it would all work out. Well, we lost and I will never forget that game. I am not telling this story because I feel Weis was wrong for putting in subs; the biscuit is right, Weis was heavily critisized for not doing this in Brady"s last year. I am telling this story because the Irish must want to crush their opponents. As long as you play fair, you can be the good sport after the game. Since that game 30 years ago I have never let up in competition. Florida put up 52 points on South Carolina;they shook hands at the end of the game-that's all that counts(God I hate mentioning anything connected to Meyer) Again, "If winning isn't everything why do they keep score". When I was in grade seven I was a starting guard on the St. Andrew’s Saints school’s elementary basketball team. We were playing a school named Fairburn one day and found ourselves up by 38 points at the half. Our coach Mr.Morgan ever the kind man did not want to embarrass the other squad. So he put in our seconds and thirds. I felt okay with this until we were up 6 with two minutes left. I begged him to put the firsts back in, but he said not to worry, it would all work out. Well, we lost and I will never forget that game. I am not telling this story because I feel Weis was wrong for putting in subs; the biscuit is right, Weis was heavily critisized for not doing this in Brady”s last year. I am telling this story because the Irish must want to crush their opponents. As long as you play fair, you can be the good sport after the game. Since that game 30 years ago I have never let up in competition. Florida put up 52 points on South Carolina;they shook hands at the end of the game-that’s all that counts(God I hate mentioning anything connected to Meyer) Again, “If winning isn’t everything why do they keep score”.

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]]> By: Sed http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/11/18/gaining-experience-almost-costs-the-game/comment-page-1/#comment-79620 Sed Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:23:48 +0000 http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/?p=2469#comment-79620 I have no problem with playing the 2nd stringers. I have only a small problem with the fumble by Jonas in the red zone - the ball was wet and he doesn't get a ton of carries. I have a little bigger problem with some of the ref's calls, but that's football and you can only hope they err on the side of both teams in the end. No, my only major problem is with the 4th down non-punt play call at near midfield with 2:30 to go. You NEVER EVER EVER EVER attempt this, especially without the first team in. I don't care how easy it is to pick up 3 yards and I don't care that we'd averaged way more than 3 yards a carry the entire game. You DO NOT go for it at midfield, you take the delay of game and punt it to the corner of the field/endzone and call it a game. That single call changed the entire game and opened the door for the rediculous comeback. Sometimes a killer instinct includes pinning the opposing team deep and playing killer defense to end a game. I have no problem with playing the 2nd stringers. I have only a small problem with the fumble by Jonas in the red zone – the ball was wet and he doesn’t get a ton of carries. I have a little bigger problem with some of the ref’s calls, but that’s football and you can only hope they err on the side of both teams in the end. No, my only major problem is with the 4th down non-punt play call at near midfield with 2:30 to go. You NEVER EVER EVER EVER attempt this, especially without the first team in. I don’t care how easy it is to pick up 3 yards and I don’t care that we’d averaged way more than 3 yards a carry the entire game. You DO NOT go for it at midfield, you take the delay of game and punt it to the corner of the field/endzone and call it a game. That single call changed the entire game and opened the door for the rediculous comeback. Sometimes a killer instinct includes pinning the opposing team deep and playing killer defense to end a game.

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