Comments on: An Open Letter to Lou Nanni http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/09/29/an-open-letter-to-lou-nanni/ Just a few guys loving the same woman and talking Irish Football. Thu, 18 Mar 2010 21:58:42 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Upturned Earth » Blog Archive » The Coming Police State: Notre Dame Tailgate Edition http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/09/29/an-open-letter-to-lou-nanni/comment-page-1/#comment-86668 Upturned Earth » Blog Archive » The Coming Police State: Notre Dame Tailgate Edition Tue, 13 Jan 2009 04:22:16 +0000 http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/?p=1860#comment-86668 [...] gripping account of his NDSP-sponsored night in the St. Joseph County jail is here, and here is a sample of the sort of thing that concerned students, parents, and alumni can do to combat this [...] [...] gripping account of his NDSP-sponsored night in the St. Joseph County jail is here, and here is a sample of the sort of thing that concerned students, parents, and alumni can do to combat this [...]

]]> By: gwzimm http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/09/29/an-open-letter-to-lou-nanni/comment-page-1/#comment-73513 gwzimm Wed, 01 Oct 2008 22:07:38 +0000 http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/?p=1860#comment-73513 I wonder if the Storm Troopers hassle students and fans at Purdue, IU, or Ball State like they do at Notre Dame? Hmmmmm? The excise police aren't new, they practiced the same shit back in the 60's. I was in Joer's (now defunct bar) one night as an 18 year old freshman, and the excise police walked in and started carding everyone. I ran into the kitchen, grabbed a mop and started mopping the floor. It didn't work, but I got points from the cops for trying. The fine was $100. Daddy sent me a check. I wonder if the Storm Troopers hassle students and fans at Purdue, IU, or Ball State like they do at Notre Dame? Hmmmmm?

The excise police aren’t new, they practiced the same shit back in the 60’s. I was in Joer’s (now defunct bar) one night as an 18 year old freshman, and the excise police walked in and started carding everyone. I ran into the kitchen, grabbed a mop and started mopping the floor. It didn’t work, but I got points from the cops for trying.

The fine was $100. Daddy sent me a check.

]]> By: weisgipper http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/09/29/an-open-letter-to-lou-nanni/comment-page-1/#comment-73396 weisgipper Tue, 30 Sep 2008 16:02:54 +0000 http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/?p=1860#comment-73396 Here's something else you might find interesting too: http://irishbandofbrothers.blogspot.com/2008/09/something-is-not-adding-up.html If you watch some of Charlie's press conferences from the past week, when he talks about Yeatman and the tight ends, he's very evasive. After the drunk driving incident, Weis quickly suspended Yeatman. However, after the recent raid at the party, the line has been, "Let's wait to see how this is resolved with the SBPD..." Meanwhile, Yeatman has continued to practice with the team. I think your blog could be right on the money. Arrested does not equal guilty and if Yeatman is acquitted, I'd bet that he'll be back on the team soon. Here’s something else you might find interesting too:

http://irishbandofbrothers.blogspot.com/2008/09/something-is-not-adding-up.html

If you watch some of Charlie’s press conferences from the past week, when he talks about Yeatman and the tight ends, he’s very evasive.

After the drunk driving incident, Weis quickly suspended Yeatman. However, after the recent raid at the party, the line has been, “Let’s wait to see how this is resolved with the SBPD…” Meanwhile, Yeatman has continued to practice with the team.

I think your blog could be right on the money. Arrested does not equal guilty and if Yeatman is acquitted, I’d bet that he’ll be back on the team soon.

]]> By: Craig http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/09/29/an-open-letter-to-lou-nanni/comment-page-1/#comment-73370 Craig Tue, 30 Sep 2008 06:05:29 +0000 http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/?p=1860#comment-73370 Chas, the University was sued in 1983 after a woman's leg was broken somewhere in the lots by an allegedly inebriated patron postgame. After the trial court awarded ND a summary judgement, the ruling was reversed on appeal, with the appellate court holding that ND did have at least a minimal duty of care to people in the tailgate lots, and there was a legitimate dispute of fact as to whether that duty was breached. As far as I know, the case was settled after being remanded. I'm not a lawyer (though I am a fairly well-educated lay person), and I apologize if I've misused any terms of art. Chas, the University was sued in 1983 after a woman’s leg was broken somewhere in the lots by an allegedly inebriated patron postgame. After the trial court awarded ND a summary judgement, the ruling was reversed on appeal, with the appellate court holding that ND did have at least a minimal duty of care to people in the tailgate lots, and there was a legitimate dispute of fact as to whether that duty was breached. As far as I know, the case was settled after being remanded.

I’m not a lawyer (though I am a fairly well-educated lay person), and I apologize if I’ve misused any terms of art.

]]> By: Chas. Betka http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/09/29/an-open-letter-to-lou-nanni/comment-page-1/#comment-73365 Chas. Betka Tue, 30 Sep 2008 04:28:58 +0000 http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/?p=1860#comment-73365 Hello Loyal Sons. This is Chas., B.A. 1975, College of Arts and Letters. A Loyal Son. Are there any recorded or litigated incidents of interpersonal violence or wanton property destruction from the parking lots/tailgating areas of our University? I've heard vague accounts of holding tank dumping in the R/V areas and have seen the vast and unforgivable litter of beer cans, trash and waste left in the lots, (bring more trash bags and clean up behind yourselves). But equally unforgivable is the presence of armed, snotty bands of "rent-a-cops" and in-uniform, on-duty police roaming the lots and ruining football Saturdays for an increasing number of Loyal Sons and Daughters who are behaving like the energetic, enthusiastic fans that define Notre Dame. If there are documented incidents of ND folk acting violently or destructively then passive patrols are warranted. If there are no incidents documented or prosecuted then my advice to the 4 (?) law enforcement agencies is to let ND Nation "crank me up" as we see fit. Horse cops charging tailgaters?! Shame on them. Are any ND Law students or grads willing to kick this can down the halls of justice? From bitter experience, albeit 33 years ago, ND Nation will not move nor sway the Administration. Lawyers of ND....step up! Don't cut your contributions to the University of Our Lady of the Lake. She is one of the reasons you are able to contribute. Treat this as what it is; personal responsibility vs. law enforcement run amok. That's a legal thing. And Hey!....how 'bout them IRISH!! Best, Chas. Hello Loyal Sons. This is Chas., B.A. 1975, College of Arts and Letters. A Loyal Son.
Are there any recorded or litigated incidents of interpersonal violence or wanton property destruction from the parking lots/tailgating areas of our University? I’ve heard vague accounts of holding tank dumping in the R/V areas and have seen the vast and unforgivable litter of beer cans, trash and waste left in the lots, (bring more trash bags and clean up behind yourselves). But equally unforgivable is the presence of armed, snotty bands of “rent-a-cops” and in-uniform, on-duty police roaming the lots and ruining football Saturdays for an increasing number of Loyal Sons and Daughters who are behaving like the energetic, enthusiastic fans that define Notre Dame.
If there are documented incidents of ND folk acting violently or destructively then passive patrols are warranted. If there are no incidents documented or prosecuted then my advice to the 4 (?) law enforcement agencies is to let ND Nation “crank me up” as we see fit. Horse cops charging tailgaters?! Shame on them.
Are any ND Law students or grads willing to kick this can down the halls of justice?
From bitter experience, albeit 33 years ago, ND Nation will not move nor sway the Administration.
Lawyers of ND….step up!
Don’t cut your contributions to the University of Our Lady of the Lake. She is one of the reasons you are able to contribute. Treat this as what it is; personal responsibility vs. law enforcement run amok. That’s a legal thing.
And Hey!….how ’bout them IRISH!!
Best,
Chas.

]]> By: The Coming Police State: Notre Dame Tailgate Edition « Upturned Earth || John Schwenkler http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/09/29/an-open-letter-to-lou-nanni/comment-page-1/#comment-73355 The Coming Police State: Notre Dame Tailgate Edition « Upturned Earth || John Schwenkler Tue, 30 Sep 2008 02:56:00 +0000 http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/?p=1860#comment-73355 [...] gripping account of his NDSP-sponsored night in the St. Joseph County jail is here, and here is a sample of the sort of thing that concerned students, parents, and alumni can do to combat this [...] [...] gripping account of his NDSP-sponsored night in the St. Joseph County jail is here, and here is a sample of the sort of thing that concerned students, parents, and alumni can do to combat this [...]

]]> By: Nathan P Origer http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/09/29/an-open-letter-to-lou-nanni/comment-page-1/#comment-73352 Nathan P Origer Tue, 30 Sep 2008 02:39:32 +0000 http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/?p=1860#comment-73352 NDSP standing by while SBPD abused a student? Noooooooo, never! http://nathancontramundi.wordpress.com/2008/08/18/ever-spent-time-in-the-st-joseph-county-in-jail-i-have/ NDSP standing by while SBPD abused a student? Noooooooo, never!

http://nathancontramundi.wordpress.com/2008/08/18/ever-spent-time-in-the-st-joseph-county-in-jail-i-have/

]]> By: fightingsonofnotredame http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/09/29/an-open-letter-to-lou-nanni/comment-page-1/#comment-73326 fightingsonofnotredame Mon, 29 Sep 2008 20:38:54 +0000 http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/?p=1860#comment-73326 The address below are what Mike Coffey had posted and I thought I saw an email of the head of NDSP earlier also but I can't find it. This is so messed up. I saw this "dry campus" mentality coming back in the late 90's. The scariest part is these ignorant goons actually going after people based on comments they're making about the process in general. What country are we living in, never mind the fact that we're supposed to be university devoted to higher education? Don't bother with emails. They get deleted unread. ... Send physical letters to people detailing your thoughts. Some possible recipients: Fr. John Jenkins, CSC President, University of Notre Dame 400 Main Building Notre Dame, IN 46556 Mr. John Affleck-Graves EVP, University of Notre Dame 400 Main Building Notre Dame, IN 46556 Mr. Jack Swarbrick Director of Athletics, University of Notre Dame C113 Joyce Center Notre Dame, IN 46556 Send the letters return receipt, meaning someone at ND will have to sign for them and you'll get a postcard confirming your letter was delivered. The address below are what Mike Coffey had posted and I thought I saw an email of the head of NDSP earlier also but I can’t find it.

This is so messed up. I saw this “dry campus” mentality coming back in the late 90’s. The scariest part is these ignorant goons actually going after people based on comments they’re making about the process in general. What country are we living in, never mind the fact that we’re supposed to be university devoted to higher education?

Don’t bother with emails. They get deleted unread.

…
Send physical letters to people detailing your thoughts. Some possible recipients:

Fr. John Jenkins, CSC
President, University of Notre Dame
400 Main Building
Notre Dame, IN 46556

Mr. John Affleck-Graves
EVP, University of Notre Dame
400 Main Building
Notre Dame, IN 46556

Mr. Jack Swarbrick
Director of Athletics, University of Notre Dame
C113 Joyce Center
Notre Dame, IN 46556

Send the letters return receipt, meaning someone at ND will have to sign for them and you’ll get a postcard confirming your letter was delivered.

]]> By: The Biscuit http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/09/29/an-open-letter-to-lou-nanni/comment-page-1/#comment-73324 The Biscuit Mon, 29 Sep 2008 20:33:57 +0000 http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/?p=1860#comment-73324 DTK. Never! DTK. Never!

]]> By: DeepTeaKup http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/09/29/an-open-letter-to-lou-nanni/comment-page-1/#comment-73322 DeepTeaKup Mon, 29 Sep 2008 19:24:03 +0000 http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/?p=1860#comment-73322 So does this mean the end of the "Her Loyal Sons Memorial Flip Cup Table" project? So does this mean the end of the “Her Loyal Sons Memorial Flip Cup Table” project?

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