Comments on: Should Steve Spurrier Feel Warm? http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/08/28/should-steve-spurrier-feel-warm/ The Worst Thing To Ever Happen To ND Football Mon, 06 Feb 2012 20:42:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: The Biscuit http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/08/28/should-steve-spurrier-feel-warm/comment-page-1/#comment-70210 The Biscuit Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:30:08 +0000 http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/?p=1390#comment-70210 BJ, you're a holy warrior in an unholy land. It may feel like you're spitting into a hurricane, but keep it up - you're doing the lord's work. BJ, you’re a holy warrior in an unholy land. It may feel like you’re spitting into a hurricane, but keep it up – you’re doing the lord’s work.

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]]> By: BJGator http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/08/28/should-steve-spurrier-feel-warm/comment-page-1/#comment-70191 BJGator Fri, 29 Aug 2008 04:36:50 +0000 http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/?p=1390#comment-70191 I will choose to focus on the SEC mythology thing. Keep in mind that I am a current student at the University of Florida (that makes me a fan of the Gators, not Urban Meyer). The SEC is nothing but circular logic wrapped up in a paradox. I want to exclaim this so the whole world hears it. YOU CAN TELL NOTHING ABOUT THE STRENGTH OF A CONFERENCE BY WATCHING TEAMS FROM THE SAME CONFERENCE PLAY EACH OTHER! Lord Almighty, I am surrounded by people who use the "SEC teams beat up on each other" argument with annoying frequency and regularity. What I find interesting is that they spare good teams from other conferences such beatings. Last year, the SEC went 1-3 vs. regular season ranked OOC opponents. Yes, that means 12 teams played a total of 4 games against ranked opponents outside the SEC. If the SEC is so strong, why can't they prove it against other BCS conferences. For comparison's sake, consider that the PAC 10 went 4-3 vs. regular season ranked OOC opponents. Not only did the PAC 10 win far more of those games, but they did so with fewer teams and one less OOC game each. Allow me to express with numbers what I just articulated. SEC - 48 OOC games - 4 vs. ranked opponents - 1-3 in those four games PAC 10 - 30 OOC games - 7 vs. ranked opponents - 4-3 in those 7 games So it could be argued that PAC 10 teams "beat up on each other" far more than SEC teams do. Now allow me to walk you through the circular logic that I deal with on a daily basis by reliving a conversation (paraphrased) that I recently had with one of my roommates. Me: What makes the SEC so great? Mike: Look at all the great teams. Me: And how did these teams prove that they are great? Mike: Because they beat up on each other during the regular season. Me: But you need a frame of reference to compare the SEC to the rest of college football. Name some great out of conference wins by SEC teams last year. Mike: SEC teams can't schedule good teams OOC because they beat up on each other all season. Few, if any, of the readers/writers of this blog can understand what I have gone through as a college football fan in the heart of SEC country. Logic does not serve here. Those around me blindly worship the SEC, unaware that teams like West Virginia, Clemson, Arizona State, and Missouri are actually good. They only recognize as legitimate that which they hear on a daily basis. So in the mind of the SEC fan, Ole Miss is a better team than Fresno State because they hear a ton about Mississippi, but very little about the Bulldogs. I finally got my roommate to shut up by telling him that college football conferences are socialist in nature, and that Notre Dame, Army, Navy, and Western Kentucky are the only real 'merican teams. I will choose to focus on the SEC mythology thing. Keep in mind that I am a current student at the University of Florida (that makes me a fan of the Gators, not Urban Meyer). The SEC is nothing but circular logic wrapped up in a paradox. I want to exclaim this so the whole world hears it. YOU CAN TELL NOTHING ABOUT THE STRENGTH OF A CONFERENCE BY WATCHING TEAMS FROM THE SAME CONFERENCE PLAY EACH OTHER! Lord Almighty, I am surrounded by people who use the “SEC teams beat up on each other” argument with annoying frequency and regularity. What I find interesting is that they spare good teams from other conferences such beatings. Last year, the SEC went 1-3 vs. regular season ranked OOC opponents. Yes, that means 12 teams played a total of 4 games against ranked opponents outside the SEC. If the SEC is so strong, why can’t they prove it against other BCS conferences. For comparison’s sake, consider that the PAC 10 went 4-3 vs. regular season ranked OOC opponents. Not only did the PAC 10 win far more of those games, but they did so with fewer teams and one less OOC game each. Allow me to express with numbers what I just articulated.

SEC – 48 OOC games – 4 vs. ranked opponents – 1-3 in those four games

PAC 10 – 30 OOC games – 7 vs. ranked opponents – 4-3 in those 7 games

So it could be argued that PAC 10 teams “beat up on each other” far more than SEC teams do. Now allow me to walk you through the circular logic that I deal with on a daily basis by reliving a conversation (paraphrased) that I recently had with one of my roommates.

Me: What makes the SEC so great?
Mike: Look at all the great teams.
Me: And how did these teams prove that they are great?
Mike: Because they beat up on each other during the regular season.
Me: But you need a frame of reference to compare the SEC to the rest of college football. Name some great out of conference wins by SEC teams last year.
Mike: SEC teams can’t schedule good teams OOC because they beat up on each other all season.

Few, if any, of the readers/writers of this blog can understand what I have gone through as a college football fan in the heart of SEC country. Logic does not serve here. Those around me blindly worship the SEC, unaware that teams like West Virginia, Clemson, Arizona State, and Missouri are actually good. They only recognize as legitimate that which they hear on a daily basis. So in the mind of the SEC fan, Ole Miss is a better team than Fresno State because they hear a ton about Mississippi, but very little about the Bulldogs.

I finally got my roommate to shut up by telling him that college football conferences are socialist in nature, and that Notre Dame, Army, Navy, and Western Kentucky are the only real ‘merican teams.

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]]> By: domer.mq http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/08/28/should-steve-spurrier-feel-warm/comment-page-1/#comment-70180 domer.mq Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:23:38 +0000 http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/?p=1390#comment-70180 Hey, I know he's pretty much just "Par for the course," but SC's hiring of Spurrier had been heralded as a major step towards relevance in college football. He's had 3 years and hasn't even supplied a glimmer of making SC relevant. Butch Davis has created more buzz at UNC, and he's hardly won at all and he's got UNC basketball to compete with. Hey, I know he’s pretty much just “Par for the course,” but SC’s hiring of Spurrier had been heralded as a major step towards relevance in college football. He’s had 3 years and hasn’t even supplied a glimmer of making SC relevant.

Butch Davis has created more buzz at UNC, and he’s hardly won at all and he’s got UNC basketball to compete with.

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]]> By: DeepTeaKup http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/08/28/should-steve-spurrier-feel-warm/comment-page-1/#comment-70179 DeepTeaKup Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:58:30 +0000 http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/?p=1390#comment-70179 Oops, I meant to say the limited potential of USC football. Oops, I meant to say the limited potential of USC football.

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]]> By: DeepTeaKup http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/08/28/should-steve-spurrier-feel-warm/comment-page-1/#comment-70178 DeepTeaKup Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:57:57 +0000 http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/?p=1390#comment-70178 Domer, come on, you of all people should be able to appreciate the potential of (the other) USC football. Even at best we are talking a middle of the pack SEC team, they would have been better off never leaving the ACC. http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_history_of_the_South_Carolina_Gamecocks Domer, come on, you of all people should be able to appreciate the potential of (the other) USC football. Even at best we are talking a middle of the pack SEC team, they would have been better off never leaving the ACC.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_history_of_the_South_Carolina_Gamecocks

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