July 25, 2008

The HLS Totally Non-Homer Top 25 - Preseason Edition 2008 : #15 - #6

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If you’d like to know all there is to know about THLSTNHT25-PE, click here, then click here to read about those teams that didn’t quite make the cut, then click here to learn about our #25-#16 teams.

And once you’ve finished with all that, please move forward, and learn all there is to know we had time to write down about THLSTNHT25-PE: #15-#6, in which we hurry through so that we may get on with talking about our projected #1-#5:

  • #15 Arizona State: Highest Position in a voter’s ballot: 11. Average rank among all ballots: 16.66. Returning the highest number of starters in the Pac-10, a team that started out 8-0 last season during what most expected to be a “rebuilding year,” now may have their sights set on contending for a national championship. Coach Dennis Erickson gave Sun Devil fans a whiplash of joy in his first year at the helm in Tempe, and there’s little reason to expect momentum to fall off in 2008, particularly with veteran signal-caller and potential-Pac-10-career-passing-yardage-record-holder Rudy Carpenter.
  • #14 Michigan State: Highest Position in a voter’s ballot: 9. Average rank among all ballots: 15.66. A vote for MSU seems to be a vote of confidence in 2nd year coach Mark Dantonio. After all, the Spartans did end up going 7-6 in 2007 after starting off 4-0. And, as Kirk Herbstreit so famously said, “That’s why they’re Michigan State.” But gone, now, are the days of John “The” Smith. Hopefully a nice, balanced purge of some old personalities while returning 7 offensive starters and 6 defensive starters will allow the Spartans to have a nice, balanced season sans El Smith Tailspin. MSU did only suffer one real head-scratcher of a loss against Northwestern. 4 of their other 5 losses occurred against teams ranked in the top 15 at game time.
  • #14 BYU: Highest Position in a voter’s ballot: 9. Average rank among all ballots: 15.66. After leading the Cougars to an 11-2 season that nearly managed to really screw with the BCS system in 2007, Bronco Mendenhall must replace 8 starters on defense. Luckily, they need to replace just 1 starter on offense. Besides, using a system best described as “The Winged-T of Defense,” it’s not hard to imagine that the adjustments being made by opposing offenses will help mask some of the Cougars’ defensive holes. And oh, by the way, they still get to play in the MWC no matter who starts on defense.
  • #12 Wisconsin: Highest Position in a voter’s ballot: 6. Average rank among all ballots: 15.33. The Badgers have to like the way things are looking in the Big 10. Michigan is set up for a down/rebuilding year during a season when Wisconsin must match up against the Skunkbears and Ohio State in consecutive weeks. What probably looked like a brutal 3 weeks of games against Michigan, OSU, and PSU now seems like a time of real possibility to take command in the Big Televen, particularly since the badgers have nearly their entire team back from a 9 win, 2007 season. And while we get this gut feeling that HC Bret Bielema is probably areal S.O.B., we know for a fact that he’s a clever S.O.B.
  • #11 Virginia Tech: Highest Position in a voter’s ballot: 8. Average rank among all ballots: 12. This team went 11-3 in 2007 with losses to a #2 LSU (and eventual MNC), #2 BC, and #8 Kansas. They lose a bunch of guys in 2008, particularly on the defense, and HC Beamer is already talking about how there will be no QB controversy, which, as we all know, guarantees a QB controversy. Oh yeah, and they also lost leading tailback Branden Ore to a dismissal, their #2 tailback to an injury, and their #3 tailback to, what, destiny? (No. It was also injury.) So, um, what are they doing up here at #11 in the HLSTNHT25-PE? No idea. We’re very busy people and sometimes people make mistakes. Besides, you wont remember any of these rankings in January anyway, and when the Hokies win 9+ this year, we’ll be sure to tell you we told you so.
  • #10 Ohio State: Highest Position in a voter’s ballot: 2. Average rank among all ballots: 11.33. Ohio State looked mighty good last year right up until they collided with the buzzsaw that was LSU in the MNC game. Then they looked as bad as they looked in their previous MNC game. But hey, at least they were invited to the dance, right? This year, the Bucknuts look forward to replacing whoever was trying to replace Troy Smith at QB with all-everything, first-year-frosh Terrelle Pryor. We have to admit, it does sort of feel like OSU is up here in the top 10 simply by virtue of being king of the Big Televen hill until someone out there knocks them off. It does help a lot that they get to figure out their QB/passing-game while probable Heisman contender Beanie Wells runs over everything in his path. How many college football players are so loved as to earn their own fan-site?
  • #9 Auburn: Highest Position in a voter’s ballot: 9. Average rank among all ballots: 11. What we like about Auburn is that, despite new offensive and defensive coordinators, and, a “new” offensive scheme, the Tigers return 15 very savvy starters - so savvy that we are forced to place “new” in “quotation marks,” because we saw what these guys can do with that “new” scheme and about a week of practice in the form of a season-high 423 yards of offense against Clemson in the Chick-fil-A Bowl. (Excuse me: Mmmmmmm…. Chick-fil-A……) We’ll take that as a solid preview of things to come in 2008 after a full Spring and Fall-camp. So long as they can overcome Tommy Tuberville’s annual mental-meltdown over the difficulty of SEC competition, the Tigers could well sneak up on an unsuspecting, lacking-in-current-game-film SEC. We’re not the only ones who think so.
  • #8 Missouri: Highest Position in a voter’s ballot: 5. Average rank among all ballots: 9.66. Having gone 12-2 last year and garnering a lot of attention for a program usually better known for almost beating Nebraska, these Tigers look to build on that momentum by returning 10 starters on defense and 2007 Heisman finalist Chase Daniel (sans ’s’, Bob Davie) behind center. They’ve got a prime-time game against Illinois to start the season August 30th and then take all of September off while practicing against the likes of SE Missouri St., Nevada, and Buffalo before providing a litmus test for Nebraska. Still, with the exception of Texas at the Midway point, and Kansas to end the season, there’s little reason to think that 2008 wont look a lot like 2007.
  • #7 Clemson: Highest Position in a voter’s ballot: 4. Average rank among all ballots: 9.33. This has to be the year for Clemson, right? Bid Daddy Bowden and FSU are down, which is good for the Tigers (notice we have 3 Tigers in a row?), since Clemson hasn’t won the ACC since 1991 - 1 year before Pappa Bumfuzzled and the Seminoles invaded the ACC. This all rests on the capable (?) shoulders of Tommy Bowden and the often-dazzling backfield of James Davis and CJ Spiller. And while we don’t know if T. Bowden’s seat is warm this year, if they can’t win the league this year, why not make the Bowden turnover a two-fer special? What probably keeps Tommy up at night, aside from the idea that his father just might out-last him in the ACC, is that they’ve got real personnel problems on the offensive line.
  • #6 LSU: Highest Position in a voter’s ballot: 1. Average rank among all ballots: 6. After Notre Dame played LSU in the 2007 Sugar Bowl, a lot of Irish fans thought the Tigers (seriously people, how about some creativity?) might be the best squad in the land, although we figured LSU would take a hit while trying to use a new QB in 2007. But it turned out we were only partly right. They didn’t have any trouble with a new QB at all. This year, after losing Flynn to graduation and Perilloux to the ATF or some other federal agency, the Tigers must again use an unknown quantity at QB, and they have to replace most of their oh-my-God-cover-the-baby’s-eyes-scary defense. And we still haven’t mentioned that the architect of all that defensive pain left to HC Nebraska. Still, you don’t win the MNC the previous year, exist in one of the most talent-rich areas of the country, and then get knocked out of many pre-season top-10s, so here they are at #6.

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14 Comments

At July 25th, 2008 at 7:22 pm, DeepTeaKup said...

MSU? at 14? You have got to be kidding me if you guys honestly think that MSU is really the 14th best team in the country? I think you guys hit that beer of the week a little early this time around.

I think Dantonio has them on the right track, but they will take step back this year. Look at who they lost from last year, these were big losses for the team.

Also, Pryor will not start for OSU this year. They have their QB back from last year.

At July 25th, 2008 at 7:59 pm, domer.mq said...

DTK,

I think what goes into that rank is that we’re on the watch for Dantonio to actually keep the meltdown from happening. If that happens, and they beat Michigan (sucks!), even though we don’t expect beating UM(S!) to be anything special this year, then there’ll be enough hype about Dantonio alone to build the ranking.

At July 26th, 2008 at 12:12 pm, The Biscuit said...

MSU will finish in the Top 25 this year. I’d agree 14 is probably a bit high pre-season, but I’d say they finish Top 20. And they’re going to whoop UM (sucks).

At July 26th, 2008 at 12:19 pm, The Biscuit said...

We voted on this a while ago and VT didnt have 1/2 of the issues they have now. Plus, I like the mascot name. LSU is overrated by everyone, including us.

At July 26th, 2008 at 5:44 pm, domer.mq said...

Yeah, I should have noted how long ago we voted. Seems like yesterday, was probably months ago by now.

At July 27th, 2008 at 2:04 am, The Biscuit said...

doesnt really matter much though. it’s not like it’s gotten any more/less accurate. pre-season polls are complete BS - ours included. i dont think anyone should be ranked until week 3, in any way shape or form. so, f it, VT is perfectly placed.

At July 27th, 2008 at 5:38 pm, trey said...

Honestly, I thought ND in the top 25 was a bit of a stretch myself…

At July 28th, 2008 at 1:59 pm, DeepTeaKup said...

I guess it would take an ND blog to appreciat the sleeping giant in East Lansing. Guys, seriously, do not be fooled by MSU’s recent success against ND. This is a program that has a definite ceiling and that is as an occasionally fringe top 20 team. I don’t doubt Dantonio can get them there but this is not the year.

And yes, it may be a rough year for UM but I don’t think MSU has it in them to win at UM. If it were at MSU, maybe a different story.

At July 28th, 2008 at 3:40 pm, The Biscuit said...

DTK, I’ll take MSU over UM straight up in a gentleman’s bet. If I win, I won’t say UM sucks for a whole month. If you win, you will refer to your coach as Head Dick for that same month. (or some other lame terms - point is, I think you guys will be getting smoked).

At July 28th, 2008 at 4:34 pm, DeepTeaKup said...

Biscuit,

How about this, UM wins and you have to do a post of a serious nature comparing UM’s and ND’s perfomance against MSU since 1997. There is to be no sarcasm and no reference to UM sucking.
If MSU wins, I will donate $25 to Weis’ charity in your blog’s name.

At July 28th, 2008 at 5:16 pm, domer.mq said...

DTK,

Not to get too up on ourselves here at HLS, but I think a post is worth more than 25 bucks. That’s what the marketing manager that keeps asking us to advertise http://www.wescalpticketsandsellporn.com keeps telling us, anway.

At July 28th, 2008 at 5:33 pm, The Biscuit said...

Make it $35 and it’s a deal. MQ is right - this is valuable real estate on the internets.

At July 28th, 2008 at 6:03 pm, DeepTeaKup said...

Domer, the big money is in cheap prescription drug advertising, you’re missing out.

Biscuit,

I agree to these terms. Should MSU win, I will provide proof of donation via the email address at the top of the page.

At July 28th, 2008 at 6:22 pm, The Biscuit said...

i know you’re good for it DTK. You’re a UM fan, but not the average UM fan that would bail on a bet. This we know. Good times.

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