Comments on: Even ESPN is Calling Urban Liar Out http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/01/25/even-espn-is-calling-urban-liar-out/ Just a few guys loving the same woman and talking Irish Football. Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:10:18 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: domer.mq http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/01/25/even-espn-is-calling-urban-liar-out/#comment-41225 domer.mq Tue, 29 Jan 2008 03:24:50 +0000 http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/01/25/even-espn-is-calling-urban-liar-out/#comment-41225 Socraticsilence, Maybe, but could it also be said that Charlie lied to the guys he "pulled" from other programs, telling them he'd never move them to DT, and then moving them straight to DT? Has Charlie ever encouraged a commit to stay quiet about it so other programs waste their time? Has Charlie run fast and loose with the NCAA recruiting rules because he knows that the NCAA will never actually enforce those rules, effectively giving a big F-you to any sense of honor? No. What Urban does is both obvious and pathetic. Socraticsilence,

Maybe, but could it also be said that Charlie lied to the guys he “pulled” from other programs, telling them he’d never move them to DT, and then moving them straight to DT?

Has Charlie ever encouraged a commit to stay quiet about it so other programs waste their time?

Has Charlie run fast and loose with the NCAA recruiting rules because he knows that the NCAA will never actually enforce those rules, effectively giving a big F-you to any sense of honor?

No. What Urban does is both obvious and pathetic.

]]> By: Socraticsilence http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/01/25/even-espn-is-calling-urban-liar-out/#comment-41218 Socraticsilence Tue, 29 Jan 2008 00:44:28 +0000 http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/01/25/even-espn-is-calling-urban-liar-out/#comment-41218 Couldn't much the same be same about Trattou, ala the DC switch last year. Couldn’t much the same be same about Trattou, ala the DC switch last year.

]]> By: Marc http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/01/25/even-espn-is-calling-urban-liar-out/#comment-41119 Marc Sun, 27 Jan 2008 19:43:15 +0000 http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/01/25/even-espn-is-calling-urban-liar-out/#comment-41119 Exactly...both of the guys that socraticsilence is referring to were at schools where there was a coaching change since they'd committed. Exactly…both of the guys that socraticsilence is referring to were at schools where there was a coaching change since they’d committed.

]]> By: domer.mq http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/01/25/even-espn-is-calling-urban-liar-out/#comment-41110 domer.mq Sun, 27 Jan 2008 15:49:46 +0000 http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/01/25/even-espn-is-calling-urban-liar-out/#comment-41110 socraticsilence, In each of those situations, the players Weis "pulled" were either decommited from their original school or they contacted Weis first. For example, Brian Smith, last year, was commited to Iowa, heard about the Trattou story and the new DC at ND (Brown), and his father called Weis up to see if ND wanted him. socraticsilence,

In each of those situations, the players Weis “pulled” were either decommited from their original school or they contacted Weis first.

For example, Brian Smith, last year, was commited to Iowa, heard about the Trattou story and the new DC at ND (Brown), and his father called Weis up to see if ND wanted him.

]]> By: socraticsilence http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/01/25/even-espn-is-calling-urban-liar-out/#comment-41091 socraticsilence Sun, 27 Jan 2008 08:47:19 +0000 http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/01/25/even-espn-is-calling-urban-liar-out/#comment-41091 I won't let Urban off the hook, but how is what Urban does so gravely different than what Weis has done in terms of poaching recruits? (see: pulling people from Nebraska and UM this year). I won’t let Urban off the hook, but how is what Urban does so gravely different than what Weis has done in terms of poaching recruits? (see: pulling people from Nebraska and UM this year).

]]> By: sir john http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/01/25/even-espn-is-calling-urban-liar-out/#comment-40967 sir john Fri, 25 Jan 2008 22:56:58 +0000 http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/01/25/even-espn-is-calling-urban-liar-out/#comment-40967 Well done. I appaude you Well done. I appaude you

]]> By: Face Mask http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/01/25/even-espn-is-calling-urban-liar-out/#comment-40966 Face Mask Fri, 25 Jan 2008 22:40:15 +0000 http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/01/25/even-espn-is-calling-urban-liar-out/#comment-40966 Why Erb?He thinks he is above the law that's why.Its not that harg to hide your crimes but he doesn't even try.That makes him cheezey and it ain't easy. Why Erb?He thinks he is above the law that’s why.Its not that harg to hide your crimes but he doesn’t even try.That makes him cheezey and it ain’t easy.

]]> By: domer.mq http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/01/25/even-espn-is-calling-urban-liar-out/#comment-40958 domer.mq Fri, 25 Jan 2008 20:08:00 +0000 http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/01/25/even-espn-is-calling-urban-liar-out/#comment-40958 I get that thinking, DTK, but if you look back at our posting history, we didn't really start attacking Urb until he lied and lied again to get Justin Trattou to decommit at the 11th hour last year. I was bummed at first that Urb didn't take the job. He was the hottest coach in the last at the time. But now I understand better why he didn't take the ND job. If you come to ND and win a NC, you become a god. Urb didn't want to work as hard or sacrifice as much as he'd have to in order to do so. That's fine. I get that thinking, DTK, but if you look back at our posting history, we didn’t really start attacking Urb until he lied and lied again to get Justin Trattou to decommit at the 11th hour last year.

I was bummed at first that Urb didn’t take the job. He was the hottest coach in the last at the time. But now I understand better why he didn’t take the ND job.

If you come to ND and win a NC, you become a god. Urb didn’t want to work as hard or sacrifice as much as he’d have to in order to do so. That’s fine.

]]> By: The Biscuit http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/01/25/even-espn-is-calling-urban-liar-out/#comment-40956 The Biscuit Fri, 25 Jan 2008 19:52:08 +0000 http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/01/25/even-espn-is-calling-urban-liar-out/#comment-40956 Course hindsight is 20/20 DTK, but I'm amazingly glad we didn't end up with Urban. He's just too sleazy for the ND mentality (and, a nod to you guys, for the Michigan mentality as well). Can it come off as petty? Yes, it can. Do we really care? Nope, not at all. As long as a dude like that takes shots at ND regularly, we'll keep harping on it. If you had a guy that regularly did this to UM, I am sure you'd have a similar tact. Plus, as I've said before, it's the off-season. I don't have much else to say. And finally, we started jumping on this a while ago. It's important to point out that we're not the only ones doing so. And that, actually, should make it seem less petty. Though again, I am fine with petty (remember, I called you a doo doo head). Biscuit Course hindsight is 20/20 DTK, but I’m amazingly glad we didn’t end up with Urban. He’s just too sleazy for the ND mentality (and, a nod to you guys, for the Michigan mentality as well).

Can it come off as petty? Yes, it can. Do we really care? Nope, not at all.

As long as a dude like that takes shots at ND regularly, we’ll keep harping on it. If you had a guy that regularly did this to UM, I am sure you’d have a similar tact.

Plus, as I’ve said before, it’s the off-season. I don’t have much else to say.

And finally, we started jumping on this a while ago. It’s important to point out that we’re not the only ones doing so. And that, actually, should make it seem less petty. Though again, I am fine with petty (remember, I called you a doo doo head).

Biscuit

]]> By: DeepTeaKup http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/01/25/even-espn-is-calling-urban-liar-out/#comment-40953 DeepTeaKup Fri, 25 Jan 2008 19:31:51 +0000 http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2008/01/25/even-espn-is-calling-urban-liar-out/#comment-40953 I get that you have soem legitimate complaints against Urban, he is evil, I get this. I just feel that an ND site constantly going after Urban can come off petty sometimes. I don't know how you felt about Urban coming to ND but I know a few ND fans who were devestated when he turned ND down. I get that you have soem legitimate complaints against Urban, he is evil, I get this.

I just feel that an ND site constantly going after Urban can come off petty sometimes. I don’t know how you felt about Urban coming to ND but I know a few ND fans who were devestated when he turned ND down.

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