Comments on: There Will be NO Hugging or Forgiveness Saturday http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2007/10/09/there-will-be-no-hugging-or-forgiveness-saturday/ The Worst Thing To Ever Happen To ND Football Mon, 06 Feb 2012 20:42:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: domer.mq http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2007/10/09/there-will-be-no-hugging-or-forgiveness-saturday/comment-page-1/#comment-29591 domer.mq Thu, 11 Oct 2007 18:51:02 +0000 http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2007/10/09/there-will-be-no-hugging-or-forgiveness-saturday/#comment-29591 1) Fredo is the mentally challenged brother in the family. That sort of fits. 2) BC tends to define itself based on things like upsetting great teams rather than, you know, actually achieving greatness. It's a mentality of "yeah, we went 7-5, but we beat..." that is sort of pathetic, much like Fredo. Looking at the fact that Fredo, in the movie, is the older brother is irrelevant to the original context of the nickname for BC. If the best you can do is come back with, "oh yeah, ND is older!" then, well, that's the best you can do. Not to mention, ND as an institution is not older than BC. BC began in 1827 (chartered in 1863), ND began in 1842. And we tend to look at BC as Fredo within the context of the entire institution, not just their mediocre college football history. All that said, it's just a joke. One which BC fans can't seem to get. Which of course firms up the contention that BC is just the east coast Purdue. 1) Fredo is the mentally challenged brother in the family. That sort of fits.
2) BC tends to define itself based on things like upsetting great teams rather than, you know, actually achieving greatness. It’s a mentality of “yeah, we went 7-5, but we beat…” that is sort of pathetic, much like Fredo.

Looking at the fact that Fredo, in the movie, is the older brother is irrelevant to the original context of the nickname for BC. If the best you can do is come back with, “oh yeah, ND is older!” then, well, that’s the best you can do. Not to mention, ND as an institution is not older than BC. BC began in 1827 (chartered in 1863), ND began in 1842. And we tend to look at BC as Fredo within the context of the entire institution, not just their mediocre college football history.

All that said, it’s just a joke. One which BC fans can’t seem to get. Which of course firms up the contention that BC is just the east coast Purdue.

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]]> By: Eagle http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2007/10/09/there-will-be-no-hugging-or-forgiveness-saturday/comment-page-1/#comment-29589 Eagle Thu, 11 Oct 2007 18:14:53 +0000 http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2007/10/09/there-will-be-no-hugging-or-forgiveness-saturday/#comment-29589 I can't take credit for this, but it is true: Fredo Corleone was the OLDER brother. He was surpassed and eventually killed by his YOUNGER brother, Michael Corleone. ND is the older brother. They've been in the CFB game longer than BC. Yet, in the past decade, BC has been the more successful program (ESPN, when ranking the most successful college football teams of the last decade, ranked BC ahead of Notre Dame). The last time ND beat BC was 6 years ago. The BC-ND series ended with BC winning more games than ND. BC has ended 2 national championship runs for ND. ND has never inflicted comparable damage on BC. "Fredo" is much more of a fit for Notre Dame - the older brother who somehow continually gets beaten and embarassed by the gritty and determined younger brother (BC). Why ND fans think this "insult" is so clever and appropriate is beyond all comprehension. I invite any ND fans to justify it now. I can’t take credit for this, but it is true:

Fredo Corleone was the OLDER brother. He was surpassed and eventually killed by his YOUNGER brother, Michael Corleone.

ND is the older brother. They’ve been in the CFB game longer than BC. Yet, in the past decade, BC has been the more successful program (ESPN, when ranking the most successful college football teams of the last decade, ranked BC ahead of Notre Dame). The last time ND beat BC was 6 years ago. The BC-ND series ended with BC winning more games than ND. BC has ended 2 national championship runs for ND. ND has never inflicted comparable damage on BC.

“Fredo” is much more of a fit for Notre Dame – the older brother who somehow continually gets beaten and embarassed by the gritty and determined younger brother (BC).

Why ND fans think this “insult” is so clever and appropriate is beyond all comprehension. I invite any ND fans to justify it now.

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]]> By: gwzimm http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2007/10/09/there-will-be-no-hugging-or-forgiveness-saturday/comment-page-1/#comment-29540 gwzimm Wed, 10 Oct 2007 22:40:38 +0000 http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2007/10/09/there-will-be-no-hugging-or-forgiveness-saturday/#comment-29540 You're nothing to me, Fredo. You're not my brother, I don't know you exist. If you come to visit our mother, I want to know 24 hours in advance so I can plan not to be here. You’re nothing to me, Fredo. You’re not my brother, I don’t know you exist. If you come to visit our mother, I want to know 24 hours in advance so I can plan not to be here.

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]]> By: Tommy O http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2007/10/09/there-will-be-no-hugging-or-forgiveness-saturday/comment-page-1/#comment-29539 Tommy O Wed, 10 Oct 2007 21:28:06 +0000 http://www.herloyalsons.com/blog/2007/10/09/there-will-be-no-hugging-or-forgiveness-saturday/#comment-29539 Fredo Corleone: I'm your older brother, Mike, and I was stepped over! Michael Corleone: That's the way Pop wanted it. Fredo Corleone: I’m your older brother, Mike, and I was stepped over!

Michael Corleone: That’s the way Pop wanted it.

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